From owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 15:10:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB9716A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD1B43D46 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9VFAKpi091022 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:10:20 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9VFAKHh091021; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:10:20 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:10:20 GMT Message-Id: <200510311510.j9VFAKHh091021@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org From: Uwe Doering Cc: Subject: Re: kern/67919: Why nobody take serious to fix this bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Uwe Doering List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:10:20 -0000 The following reply was made to PR kern/67919; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Uwe Doering To: Maxim Konovalov Cc: Igor Sysoev , "Cai, Quanqing" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, bug-followup@freebsd.org, Edwin Groothuis Subject: Re: kern/67919: Why nobody take serious to fix this bug? Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:08:30 +0100 Maxim Konovalov wrote: > [...] > >>>I was told the patch is incorrect. It works in certain cases but >>>incorrect in general. >> >>Why is it incorrect ? I'm using it for year. > > Because you can't just throw away any chunk of data (e.g. it could be > a meta-data) without a risk to damage a filesystem. I wonder, could it really be meta-data? I was under the impression that meta-data is a filesystem property and is therefore dealt with in the filesystem code, through i/o buffers. Isn't the VM pager responsible for handling object contents (files etc.), only? If so, it would be unfortunate to throw away pages of data but it certainly wouldn't damage the filesystem. As to our own experience: Since I provided the patch a year ago or so we've had tons of users bumping against the space limit of their respective disk containers (with the VM pager involved: Berkeley DB 3, for instance) but not a single instance where the filesystem had been damaged by this incident. This is on the 4.x branch. Uwe -- Uwe Doering | EscapeBox - Managed On-Demand UNIX Servers gemini@geminix.org | http://www.escapebox.net