From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Feb 4 17:22:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD8B37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-85.apple.com [17.250.248.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186C243F93 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:22:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lomion@mac.com) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h151MWiU020278 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mac.com ([68.39.203.40]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H9TAHJ00.J76; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:22:31 -0800 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:22:32 -0500 Subject: Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Magnus_B=E4ckstr=F6m?= From: Larry Sica In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4D146278-38A8-11D7-9713-000393A335A2@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 06:28 PM, Magnus B=E4ckstr=F6m wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Brett Glass wrote: >> At 12:02 PM 2/4/2003, Larry Sica wrote: >>> I do not have the expertise to do any hard core programming, does=20 >>> that >>> mean i therefore should have no say? What if i write a number of >>> articles, or am really helpful? Or maintain hundreds of freebsd >>> systems? Does my investment seem less just because I am not a >>> committer? >> >> Exactly. Perhaps a better form of governance would include another >> (more open and democratic) stratum at the top, which in turn managed >> teams that did the coding, docs, advocacy, PR, system administration, >> etc.? > > Sketch a structure you believe would work in practice. > That is exactly what i am trying to think about now. I don't believe=20 in talking the talk w/o walking the walk. I hope to come up with at=20 least an idea that will be listened to, and at the least maybe generate=20= some positive discussion. The issue here, for me, is not so much the=20 loss of Matt, but the way it was handled. --Larry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message