Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:58:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> To: Jamie Norwood <mistwolf@mushhaven.net> Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Out of mbuf clusters Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909201107330.6368-100000@fw.wintelcom.net> In-Reply-To: <19990920104804.A41115@mushhaven.net>
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> Jamie > > On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 07:29:40PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > "Joao Carlos" <jcarlos@bahianet.com.br> writes: > > > If you all thinks that this kind of crash is good, because it was > > > genereated by a clone flood, OK, so many people will continue using another > > > operating system or having many crashes because they want to run a IRC > > > Server. As I said, not everyone is like this, but you that thinks this kind > > > of questions as idiots, could simply do not answer and delete it from your > > > mail client. > > > > Perhaps you should reconsider your attitude and accept advice from > > someone who actually has experience running EFNet IRC servers on > > FreeBSD. > > > > DES > > -- > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Jamie Norwood wrote: > <List snipped to just BSD-questions> > > Actually, I have to agree with Joao here. Advice is good, but when it > takes on such a condescending tone that borders on insulting the asker > for their presumption to run an IRC server, it isn't very useful. Dag-Erling offered very helpful advice, he's right on every point. Considering he's the only one who stepped up to offer such advice, I would have considered it better form to thank him and research the topics he mentioned. Had he simply not answered, Joao Carlos would have gotten no advice. MBUF related problems have been discussed on this lists over and over and over and ... well you get the idea. And if you can't be bothered to search the lists or find a mentor to figure this stuff out you shouldn't be running an IRC server or any server, period. "Joao Carlos" <jcarlos@bahianet.com.br> writes: > I'm running FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE, and compiled a kernel with 64 maxusers. It > gives me somethink like 1048 processes. I don't know if it's a bug, or > whatever, but i got crazy when i tested a program called CLONE on a IRC > Server running i this machine. It's not a bug! I find myself extremely sick of individuals who haven't a clue about FreeBSD and do not bother to research any issues that come up before blaming FreeBSD for their problems. These people then seem to have a knack for taking well presented advice and complaining that it isn't sugar coated into a form that they like. It's insulting and rude to blame the system for operator error, a lot of people have put considerable time and effort into putting it together. (DES being one of these contributors) Furthermore, commentary on people's attitude should be kept to private mail, if you hadn't noticed, this is not a group therapy session, it's a mailing list setup to provide support. -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Wintelcom systems administrator and programmer - http://www.wintelcom.net/ [bright@wintelcom.net] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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