From nobody Tue Mar 29 01:34:46 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CCC1A3BBA1 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 01:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KSBvG1NvLz3JFm for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 01:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=H4yTv1KUauwFHMCIHX3Lihxsl7aEwFB8K9vgwYF92us=; b=kdYsq1Mi9HqrM2W9mYqpDSUPJ4 f6oapYII3fb2ee6c36GcbKpGy2f/1i77UCalGekk6qNPdZSc6xpAobDYsXbzGaSiHlAIhDdBMct1B JGs5VKzR7WUGdb/m9KI0YVrnrw7ypUO/1JhPxI5tSfGvSWpepro0EZYe/MBEEo/6VL29U7EhedyTb CSl8PPmvWybMy1yGnhWLH5OwsQXV3oKKH+N+2a8W6/kqmV0J1VZ+QrW8WZHs40E5xyHZCy4tgqUBz 1X2g5RTk5Q3QluXLyB6dCNgvJwQ7Sidgy4USPLm8YgJvg383fGt9UHa+5ST3vuYAEl5mqfXKcatGh matFJ92Q==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.92.1) (envelope-from ) id R9HGDZ-00087W-04 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 03:34:47 +0200 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 03:34:46 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 Subject: Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <38b7f44-6d54-fec6-c1f0-d3609d301687@safeport.com> <20220327132420.201da20c@archlinux> <20220327212421.adaee52ba708a058e5ef6bd8@sohara.org> <4f3edca7-45ec-b8ae-45dc-9648cced9bfe@kicp.uchicago.edu> <772cf4b0-9e26-3126-ec4b-bd91986883dd@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20220328055449.8a30774a61f3b298e778ae68@sohara.org> <20220328121115.7d368d32@bigus.dream-tech.com> <20220328213101.b4e8a7c447964ba025d30883@sohara.org> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: <20220328213101.b4e8a7c447964ba025d30883@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KSBvG1NvLz3JFm X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=kdYsq1Mi; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 3/28/22 22:31, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > Many of them may share the frustrations but have their hands full > with what they're already doing. So if something is not being addressed it > means that there is nobody who cares enough and has the time and the skills > to address it. Which means that for it to happen someone who does has to > step up and make it happen and not someone who is already giving their time > to something they feel is more important/interesting/doable/fun/... they're > doing their bit in their own way. This. The open source world has produced so much for so many for little to not reward for their time and effort, that it has created an expectation that everyone's problem has, more than likely, been already fixed by someone else. And that if that problem has no fix, well then, "someone has to fix it". I think it's important to remind folk that the open source world is not some conglomerate, with tons of buildings hosting thousands of developers being paid by the second. No. It's men and women in everyday clothing and slippers, sitting in their studies, living rooms, bedrooms and neighborhood cafes, at 3AM coding the ideas that struck them earlier in the shower. Mark.