From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 6 18:07:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1586130D86B for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 18:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1033B784BE for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 18:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.9] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id Uy3ggpQptP088Uy3jg8bKz; Thu, 06 Dec 2018 18:07:37 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 12:07:32 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Ruben , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advice on backups Message-ID: <621C323D0BC19E195684F522@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <9e6d88c8-8d0a-1415-d1db-33be8f7d713b@osfux.nl> References: <9e6d88c8-8d0a-1415-d1db-33be8f7d713b@osfux.nl> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfBuFd2mcEzKZwfQ0od6ZWLnfnEtiDUT4mWDHZjMf7ET2urJW7zzLUzI5EOncQg2x/7jvbIgcsyWixXmG40Ibl4hNAmvjubhuPgKZ0HZs9R6rE3bo121y VUQqaUZQOJKJFs4KLwCMNXZHTSz/h9sJ7jY1GDsXJ98e/BEgbA8A493Lvju13D62HtaqXWvXXb8GXGMQBruGKh5RsC/z++xnWdVSGgkTOh9YmRqWMMFMkXp3 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1033B784BE X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[229.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.01)[ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-2.76), asn: 7843(-2.21), country: US(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 18:07:45 -0000 --On December 6, 2018 at 9:36:32 AM +0100 Ruben wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On 12/5/18 11:29 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> I manage a couple of servers on the internet. There are no backup or > > Stuff snipped > > > Are you using ZFS on those servers? If so, I would definately consider > implementing some sort of snapshotting scheme (using zxfer and zfsnap) > for your backups. > One of the servers I manage runs zfs, but I confess the technology is a mystery to me. I tried and failed to wrap my head around using it for backups. > Also, are you only using apache data? A lot of webservers are running > with stuff like Mysql / Elasticsearch "nowadays". > I use mysql, and I've been backing up the dbs to Dropbox for quite a while now. I do not use Elasticsearch. Paul Schmehl, Retired As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell