From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Oct 20 09:46:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EFE10089F2 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@hotmail.com) Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EAD86C51 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@hotmail.com) Received: from fed1rmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.28 201-2260-151-171-20160122) with ESMTP id <20181020094642.KWKD4170.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110.cox.net> for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 05:46:42 -0400 Received: from darkstar.l.net ([70.162.107.4]) by fed1rmimpo110.cox.net with cox id plmh1y00805jLly01lmhaV; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 05:46:41 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A09020D.5BCAF981.0031, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=f4j8+96M c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=4BIu1A+LKuLWZSFIlheA8A==:117 a=4BIu1A+LKuLWZSFIlheA8A==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=GCTS3VqRtzAA:10 a=ce6OU1hbmdcA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=XwLr3hyWkzNCKXHaWBcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=mirror176@cox.net To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=mirror176@hotmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEWM/K1RYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAn3jE1XhdYDgbxPfc0yYoJ+SuRhOQCedHr/in1X5aZFG0 OEVkd2FyZCBTYW5mb3JkIFN1dHRvbiwgSUlJIDxlZHdhcmQuc3V0dG9uLmlpaUBnbWFpbC5j b20+iJkEExYKAEECGwMFCwkIBwMFFQoJCAsFFgMCAQACHgECF4ACGQEWIQRcG7F5PMnFLs9Q mH7pNfr2Xm5OKAUCWsSVsgUJA9X+XQAKCRDpNfr2Xm5OKEvaAQDSk4U3dFdFna5a1o1Vtkfq TbOLKwccHagp/m58CrMZjgD+OqfRd4wutvcuLHE0mx8jHSUJzohyXRkAfHX42dx5pwq0MkVk d2FyZCBTYW5mb3JkIFN1dHRvbiwgSUlJIDxtaXJyb3IxNzZAaG90bWFpbC5jb20+iJYEExYK AD4CGwMFCwkIBwMFFQoJCAsFFgMCAQACHgECF4AWIQRcG7F5PMnFLs9QmH7pNfr2Xm5OKAUC WsSVuQUJA9X+XQAKCRDpNfr2Xm5OKE5sAP9cqBvoXSiqIzznJlCrycwsk2IqBmqi5DcN3SC1 Sgj40QD+KVcC3aRb+wFWHXzBaPTVLp5AAlHuQqP87GviYrou/A24OARYz8rVEgorBgEEAZdV AQUBAQdAK9YHGy4GSwTihOMlklx3XljYQUrcFeBoh/B18li2giEDAQgHiH4EGBYKACYCGwwW IQRcG7F5PMnFLs9QmH7pNfr2Xm5OKAUCWsSPxQUJA9X4cAAKCRDpNfr2Xm5OKEmLAQCe5BtA id0gm3eWggSVVSt/61oUDSkYpmuKgN9QwGb7LwEAiYISxBgX+/R96uqxwsEN4oVLvD11egki 9Nv2/1ewQQ4= Subject: dmesg submission service -- please submit today Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 02:46:41 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:00:10 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:46:49 -0000 Thank you for asking; I used the one-liner in hopes that it helps. I presume the same areas can be used from a release/stable/current boot media to gather it from another machine not running FreeBSD presently but will be a likely future goal so will try to get it submitted too. I would appreciate seeing this as an option or request on installs and think it could make a good reminder in the output when binary updating or source rebuilding or in the UPDATING file (I'm more likely to check there than in the handbook). Adding it to normal dmesg output or a login message would seem too bloated and likely to be removed or ignored. If something is planned for removal, documenting it and mentioning it in output when it is loaded both could help spread awareness. If needing feedback from those users, it could make it clear it is considered for removal so that people who need to speak up about being a user have a chance to be heard then too. freebsd.org hosting it would lead to more trust and easy control of a command sequence to generate it with options, review contents, then submit it would get more feedback. Anyways, I'm not a regular to this list and I only found out as I was browsing through release+stable+current mailings, PRs, changes, and patches under review for my issue of processes getting stuck in the pfault state (as listed by top) when I get down to about 140M free of 32G until more and more processes lock up. Power button set for shutdown usually eventually gives one after it begins killing things due to timeouts being reached. Though I have had some luck with patches improving how long until I can expect a needed action be taken, I've decided 11.2 is not stable enough for use so will likely go to 12-stable with hopes of changes I have not yet tested. I got rid of my last 10M adapter last year when I ran across it as any reason I may reach for it would be a painful experience to not just replace it. Thank you and good luck on a smooth cleanup, Edward Sanford Sutton, III