From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 19:42:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B662216A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:42:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [128.30.28.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7A743D1F for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:42:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iAOJgTaa018853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK CN=khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu issuer=SSL+20Client+20CA); Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:42:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id iAOJgTVX018848; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:42:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:42:29 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200411241942.iAOJgTVX018848@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Matthias Andree In-Reply-To: References: <41A4944C.6030808@freebsd.org> <20041124171855.GE95873@dan.emsphone.com> <41A4C43D.8020304@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Score: -19.8 () IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5-STABLE softupdates issue? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:42:36 -0000 < said: > I posted about softupdate problems on a SCSI system with DISABLED WRITE > CACHE, on a somewhat flakey Micropolis drive that froze and caused If the hardware is broken, all bets are off, soft updates or no. -GAWollman