From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 22:48:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129A91065673 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D01798FC12 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32657 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2010 22:48:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2010 22:48:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Message-ID:Date:Disposition-Notification-To:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=uv7V2AfGNSQA0mI0kJAJds70p18Gp60ucBU4K8JYYbIE/WZU34HlgkUZpiN/uu7XyGD1KmLa5ac5R1LkAnIzkOS9QDDhc0EUnzJPSvg6X0JxqbleYZTE46Q1R5GaLEgo; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OOevh-0002Oo-82 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:48:25 -0600 Received: from 206.74.86.236 ([206.74.86.236]) by mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:48:25 -0600 Message-ID: <20100615164825.7a4dp2kogsgs8wwo@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:48:25 -0600 From: Programmer in Training To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100615211740.GA50967@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100615154956.cfz6ip454w8gcco4@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <07A440BE-D29A-44CA-9F2D-16D1314A8B24@mac.com> <20100615161147.j4gokl7rk8sgwssw@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: concerning flash under freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:48:26 -0000 Quoting Chuck Swiger : Please see last line of sig. > On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Programmer in Training wrote: >> Quoting Chuck Swiger : >>> Adobe supports Windows, MacOSX, Linux, and Solaris (from =20 >>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions ). If it is =20 >>> important to you that Flash works well, you should either persuade =20 >>> Adobe to provide a FreeBSD version, or you should switch to =20 >>> using one of the platforms on which Flash is supported. >> >> I had little of the problems described in the original post (aside =20 >> from needing an alias for killing flash, I never actually thought =20 >> of making one until now). It doesn't change the fact that "Don't =20 >> install it." isn't a valid option. > > Evidently so, for some people. > >> I also take issue with the "well use a supported OS" schtick. > > I'm not sure that last word means what you think it means. Try =20 > reading Adobe's EULA: > > "3.1 General Use. You may install and Use one copy of the Software =20 > on your Compatible Computer. See Section 4 for important =20 > restrictions on the Use of the Software. > > 3.2 Server Use. This agreement does not permit you to install or Use =20 > the Software on a computer file server. For information on Use of =20 > Software on a computer file server please refer to [ ... ] > > 4.1 Adobe Runtime Restrictions. You will not Use any Adobe Runtime =20 > on any non-PC device or with any embedded or device version of any =20 > operating system. For the avoidance of doubt, and by example only, =20 > you may not Use an Adobe Runtime on any (a) mobile device, set top =20 > box (STB), handheld, phone, game console, TV, DVD player, media =20 > center (other than with Windows XP Media Center Edition and its =20 > successors), electronic billboard or other digital signage, Internet =20 > appliance or other Internet-connected device, PDA, medical device, =20 > ATM, telematic device, gaming machine, home automation system, =20 > kiosk, remote control device, or any other consumer electronics =20 > device, (b) operator-based mobile, cable, satellite, or television =20 > system or (c) other closed system device. No right or license to Use =20 > any Adobe Runtime is granted for such prohibited uses." > > Are you running Samba or NFS filesharing? Or is your machine a =20 > mini-ITX box which might be considered an "Internet-connected =20 > device" rather than a normal PC? There's a reason why the FreeBSD =20 > precompiled packages can't include Flash-- the project is forbidden =20 > from redistributing it. That's actually fairly restrictive (and retarded). Why does it have =20 official Linux support, though? You can run Samaba or NFS filesharing =20 on any of those (and hey, what about file-sharing amongst Windows =20 computers?). Stupid Adobe. --=20 Yours in Christ, PIT All original content (C) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed.