From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 10:26:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A8AB91DB7 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.kissl.de (host64.kissl.de [213.239.241.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.shmhost.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DB961A4A; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-119.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.119]) (Authenticated sender: web104p1) by host64.kissl.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B5AD06AD0C; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:26:20 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: GOST in OPENSSL_BASE From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:26:20 +0200 Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20160710133019.GD20831@zxy.spb.ru> <20160711184122.GP46309@zxy.spb.ru> <98f27660-47ff-d212-8c50-9e6e1cd52e0b@freebsd.org> To: Daniel Kalchev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at host64.kissl.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:26:30 -0000 > On 12 Jul 2016, at 11:59 AM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: >=20 > It is trivial to play MTIM with this protocol and in fact, there are = commercially available =E2=80=9Csolutions=E2=80=9D for =E2=80=9Csecuring = one=E2=80=99s corporate network=E2=80=9D that doe exactly that. Some = believe this is with the knowledge and approval of the corporation, but = who is to say what the black box actually does and whose interests it = serves? It's also trivial to ignore that pinning certificates and using client certificates can actually help a great deal to prevent all of what you just said. ;) The bottom line is not having GOST support readily available could = alienate a whole lot of businesses. Not wanting those downstream use cases will = make those shift elsewhere and the decision will be seen as an overly = political move that in no possible way reflects the motivation of community = growth. Cheers, Franco=