From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Mar 30 18:34:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.primenet.com (smtp05.primenet.com [206.165.6.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2303A37B8EB; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:34:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr09.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp05.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16144; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:34:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr09.primenet.com(206.165.6.209) via SMTP by smtp05.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAdyaWiF; Thu Mar 30 19:34:01 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06930; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:33:55 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200003310233.TAA06930@usr09.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Oh no. The Guns Debate (was Re: On "intelligent people" and To: jmb@hub.freebsd.org (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 02:33:55 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in, crh@outpost.co.nz, adam@whizkidtech.net, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000330134914.4659037B732@hub.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Mar 30, 2000 05:49:14 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Moreover, they either escape well before the blast, > > > > Soldiers. > > Terry, > after spending effort to educate us on grammer, please dont > confuse soldiers and terrorists. > > Govts use soldiers to fight other armed forces resulting in > some civilian casaulties. soldiers do not aim to purposefully cause > civilian casaulties. civilians are really just in the way. > > Terrorists are used by NGO's and Govts to kill civilians. > civilian casaulties are the purpose of terrorist activities. teh more > civilian dead the better. Terrorists shun Govt soldiers. No offense intended towards people who serve in the military. My point was that if they were escaping before the blast, instead of suicide bombing, they we less committed to their ideals than a fanatic (willing to die in a skirmish, even if it might cost your side the war to be without people). The problem with NGO vs. government as your classification boundary is that one man's NGO is another man's government in exile. I agree that the primary distinction should be civilian vs. military targets, but there again, the line is really blurry; are the American people civilians, or are they the government? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message