From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Apr 16 3:58: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73DC37BBC9 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 03:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26535 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:57:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id MAA00607 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:57:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA6A37B69B for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id RAA26374 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:32:23 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda26372; Sat Apr 15 17:32:11 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA17898 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdZ17896; Sat Apr 15 17:31:56 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e3G0Vt302555 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004160031.e3G0Vt302555@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdJe2549; Sat Apr 15 17:31:27 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Shells V2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:31:26 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My first posting was so incoherent, I'm embarrassed to have my name on it. So I'll do it better this time. BTW, any job worth doing is worth doing twice :) With commit of tcsh, I'd like to raise another question. Are there any plans to replace sh with bash? Granted they're not 100% compatible, though my only experience with bash vs sh incompatibility was over 6 years ago on a Linux system, I still think it might be a good idea to replace sh with bash. Another point to consider is that most people who use a Bourne Shell install and use the bash2 port, just like Csh users install and use the tcsh port. I think that fewer people would be inconvenienced by the replacement of sh with bash than there currently are of those who install and use the bash2 port. If replacing sh with bash is unpalatable for some or most of us, what about putting bash2 in the base system along side of sh? The only arguments I can see against this are: 1. Bash isn't 100% compatible with sh, but I've only experienced this once over my UNIX career. 2. Bloat. FreeBSD was small when I first started to use it (2.0.5). Anyone care to comment? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message