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R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tarsnap.com:s=ae7m2yrxjw65l2cqdpjxuucyrvy564tn,amazonses.com:s=224i4yxa5dv7c2xz3womw6peuasteono]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.990]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:54.240.0.0/18:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.001]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tarsnap.com:+,amazonses.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[54.240.8.52:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.59)[-0.586]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tarsnap.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[54.240.8.52:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:54.240.8.0/21, country:US]; FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[cperciva@tarsnap.com,01000174a2d1ae7d-67d1be08-42fe-48a1-aa45-c707d264f01b-000000@amazonses.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-cloud] X-BeenThere: freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD on cloud platforms \(EC2, GCE, Azure, etc.\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:04:49 -0000 On 2020-09-17 15:22, Riccardo Lombardi wrote: > El mar., 15 sept. 2020 a las 0:04, Colin Percival ( >) escribió: > I'm seriously considering providing "minimal" AMIs without debug symbols (and > maybe other stuff; I'm not sure if there's anything else worth excluding). > Right now this and other "flavoured FreeBSDs" is blocked by Amazon not > enabling the SSM Parameter Store for FreeBSD to register AMIs. > > Thank you, this is really great news.  > May I suggest, if Amazon's reaction time is still too slow or tending to > infinity, the "CentOS" way. > I don't know the actual reason, but their AMIs are not listed on the official > Marketplace, they just publish the AMI-IDs on their website, just like any > community AMI. We do publish AMI IDs on the FreeBSD website, in the release announcements. But it's unwieldy enough including 2 architectures x 17 regions worth of AMI IDs in the announcement emails already; it would be impractical to include 2 architectures x 2 filesystems (UFS vs ZFS) x 4 flavours (minimal, base, cloudinit, AMI Builder) x 17 regions in each announcement. -- Colin Percival Security Officer Emeritus, FreeBSD | The power to serve Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid