From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 25 04:55:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D886E16A41B; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darrenr@freebsd.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996CF13C49D; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darrenr@freebsd.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD04E2FD1D; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:55:54 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 5CuKcbdY4UWTInNW/CXK+W+/m3rHLW/PiOayNGjIttoy 1190696154 Received: from [192.168.1.235] (64-142-85-108.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [64.142.85.108]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED7C22DC9; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46F8951C.50904@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:57:00 -0700 From: Darren Reed User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20070921102946.T11189@borg> <46F415BF.9010500@FreeBSD.org> <20070921140550.D96923@thebighonker.lerctr.org> <46F41CFF.6080108@FreeBSD.org> <46F58799.1030702@freebsd.org> <46F58B21.8030307@FreeBSD.org> <20070924091558.GB32006@team.vega.ru> <46F78C59.1020801@FreeBSD.org> <20070924080347.O84223@thebighonker.lerctr.org> <20070924144210.GA82735@team.vega.ru> <46F7D7A4.5090007@samsco.org> <46F80A39.3050707@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <46F80A39.3050707@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Larry Rosenman Subject: Re: panic: kmem_malloc(131072): kmem_map too small (AMD64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:55:55 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > ... > Well yes, that is one hypothesis, but the evidence points elsewhere as > well. Prior the change you reference, some of my zfs machines would > run for weeks before hitting a load pattern that exhausted their > kmem_map and triggered the panic. Also unless I have missed it I am > not seeing the sudden flood of panic reports that may indicate sudden > breakage. It is quite possible that this particular report has > nothing to do with the recent change. Indeed. But here's something else to ponder... I've been using ZFS since it was internal beta at Sun, at first on i386 and later on amd64. I've never run into this kind of panic on Solaris. System can get very slow, yes, with ZFS hogging lots of memory, but it never panic'd because of it. We need to come up with a strategy here to solve this problem, be it fixing the kmem virtual memory or fixing zfs. Darren