From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 29 21:10:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF97316A41C for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:10:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dashevil@sympatico.ca) Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7447643D1F for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:10:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dashevil@sympatico.ca) Received: from elemental.DashEvil ([69.156.178.164]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20050629211003.TIII27508.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@elemental.DashEvil>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:10:03 -0400 From: Chris Laverdure To: pablo.delgado@lsi.mine.nu In-Reply-To: <1119898550.42c04bb6e5906@webmail.lsi.mine.nu> References: <6F2F8FD3FBCF7A489CB18912A4807EBA0E0873@mvwcim1a.acuson.com> <1119898550.42c04bb6e5906@webmail.lsi.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:09:44 -0400 Message-Id: <1120079384.10023.5.camel@elemental.DashEvil> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Let's update FreeBSD vs Linux vs Windows XP X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:10:06 -0000 In which case it makes a lot of sense to have such a "brochure" start out with the basics, and the further you get into it, the more details are revealed. I believe that FreeBSD, and FreeBSD 5.x in general are misrepresented. Like GEOM, for example. Where is the geom advocacy? I've seen trolls tear it apart as phk's ego love child, but personally, after researching into it, I've found it greatly useful. But you know, geom is nothing until you've done the research. Nobody is out there telling people, hey, you want an encrypted mirror RAID spread across disk images on 5 different computers? It's simple as pie with GEOM. Simple, logical, flexible. I think that there should be a huge push with this image, regarding FreeBSD advocacy, rather than the typical, "We're better than X because of...." approach. I've said before, and I'll say again.. You try to demean someone elses solution, they often see it as an attack on themselves. Just my 2cents, now where is my interest? :) On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 14:55 -0400, pablo.delgado@lsi.mine.nu wrote: > I totally agree. We should not remove all the technical data. > But there should be more literature to attract different types of individuals. > > Some users are driven by looks, usability, simplicity/complexity, etc. Thats why > brochures for Honda / Toyota (just to follow the same analogy) come in different > size and shapes. Shome brochures display what the car could look like, other > display technical data, and other simple pose a life style that lures in people. > > > > From: Marc Fonvieille [mailto:blackend@freebsd.org] > > > > > > I thought you wanted to update the content... > > > and if it's for "newcomers" marketing/os-comparison.html > > > will be too much technical for them. > > > > Newcomers != technically illiterate > > > > If it's a straight comparison, then it needs to have technical information. > > Imagine taking a Honda Civic brochure and a Toyota Corolla brochure, > > removing all technical facts such as horsepower and mileage, and then > > comparing them only on the marketing verbiage. You cannot do it and have it > > makes sense. > > > > Marketing to newcomers doesn't mean hiding away the technical details. > > That's what the EZLinux distros do, and we're better than that. Don't hide > > the gnarly greasy details. If they scare away a few newbies, they wouldn't > > have been happy here anyway. But those that they don't scare away should be > > welcomed. > > > > David > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Chris Laverdure