From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 05:09:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91969E55C8 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd36.google.com (mail-io1-xd36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46V3b21ygVz48ZS for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd36.google.com with SMTP id f4so59607141ion.2 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:09:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9W/Yqe30d71HdRlXws6afentQ5QvYmfCDwVGmS3C7rM=; b=aK5LaDV2OyyCL/vA8STX+2edDix7dHRk7MMP3bypvCyrxnPp6DjH9UOH9nwUxkMl/7 VybwoVZRijYWS02pxQ2am0nihKQ10XEl/hfUgTtkcrtcGqCxzvMJxd86Ao42E5Cu+9Xl KQpDLBhOIFaI2GIagnzVVFt82Uwe9yDB18fauc/LoS7yghEpKXWbwYRFM2Iqoo2/sxh5 Z16FWDmSU+PafhLfDubN2bOtomWIATyb2u76WO1W+On6RGkEKAf6MipJY6lhirw1WgkJ 7Ikx06fcfDcUAGqsadwxCJvQDderaEtj/eI7exThM1iHrNCqXwADD/1ZgTPmWbO4UAsk uokg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9W/Yqe30d71HdRlXws6afentQ5QvYmfCDwVGmS3C7rM=; b=Lh/oI7B7za03dfAPQj+AUPSqsIl5TDLmLSsobM6PfCEE/PqYcY6bElsqqTQzXNiZms BT6thsXfCjynx6nZFf7cAXKRUuy+yQpSEPRnQKXdiWcLKZxADTdXdioQm6xpAaeeVYOX TcRPUuuCpgWcWs3aFjh+TnB1NOasGSarmPpo9nfjMeIglo2edUvE0qTWVDGYUMUiTuRc 2XGsG+nz3M3MYTPD9n+m+a3kDXlTH1LIQpf2Tub/Jb2xzBGsqVZcFKtvxQp5xQ86Py9i buTPoafXZpc53/eMn4R57zfMdFhwz+8Nw8hyf3dimdn2TShWH60+SAPuoN1s79U26bmA XjlQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX05GJTZ0lkBePYnURL9m3+78EwOJf9jlCDX4rHDwup5Uk0GWDo b2VVbf/B7VlcDrQ7w4PdcEPlBN9CYuXx8upaRpXefg7k X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy8Ckfd7ajO8FmK3r4ylMK7pz6lQJayVYcMhkf75OYu9mDfzOvjHxp8sueQwM8mDPP4UGnY9ThG0rjB1pAQ4lo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:14e:: with SMTP id y14mr11025121jao.79.1568351356885; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:09:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ultima Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:09:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A modest hier proposal To: Jim Trigg Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46V3b21ygVz48ZS X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=aK5LaDV2; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ultima1252@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ultima1252@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-5.55), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.71), asn: 15169(-2.25), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:09:19 -0000 Hello, Can't see myself supporting you without some clever reasoning for why to make the proposed changes to hier(7). What I'm most interested in this proposal is how the migration would be handled and if the work required to make it happen is truly worth the effort. IMO there are a lot of problems for the project to solve that would be more beneficial to focus on. Although hier(7) could most certainly be improved in one way or another, I can't see the time spent benefiting the project as much as other areas would. Best regards, Richard Gallamore