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The algorithm/ internals aren= =E2=80=99t > too important for me; I=E2=80=99m interested in what your minimal api nee= ds from > FreeBSD are. >=20 > It sounds like you select the random module to load in loader(8) =E2=80= =94 you > don=E2=80=99t need userspace / runtime loading (kldload). Is that underst= anding > correct? Per my followup, we are no longer using RANDOM_LOADABLE, we preload the selected module. So long as that functionality is not broken we should be ok. > Would it be possible to answer the other questions from the initial email, > too? If random loadable support was removed upstream, are you unable to Since we haven't used it for a couple of years I'd hope we would not be impacted but I know we've been bitten in the past by changes in the random infra, though I don't recall the detail - will check with some other folk.