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Date:      Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:37:42 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Brad Knowles <brad@shub-internet.org>
Cc:        Joe Abley <jabley@patho.gen.nz>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, jlemon@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Odd TCP glitches in new currents
Message-ID:  <199912221937.LAA10414@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <16589.945810831@critter.freebsd.dk> <199912212123.NAA02780@apollo.backplane.com> <19991222200017.A25228@patho.gen.nz> <v04220802b486491ca1af@[195.238.1.121]>

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:>  clueful person bitten by this:
:>
:>    hard-wire your duplex setting on your machine and also on the switch
:
:	If you check <http://www.backplane.com/diablo/hard.html>; and 
:scroll down to the "Network:" section (from the looks of things, 
:written sometime back in 1997 or perhaps 1998), you'll see that Matt 
:has been well aware of this problem for some time.
:
:	That's not to say that he might have forgotten his own advice on 
:this issue, just that he is (or should be ;-) well aware of it.
:
:
:	That said, I have to admit that I have yet to be bitten by this 
:problem, and I have not (yet) configured machines & switches at this 
:site to forcibly select a particular media speed and plexicity.
:
:-- 
:Brad Knowles <brad@shub-internet.org> <http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/>;
:     <http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE38CCEF1>;

    That's less of a problem as boards have started to conform better,
    but I definitely checked it - full-duplex worked fine (I could push
    over 15 MBits aggregate).  My packet loss occured with both half and
    full duplex.

    I finally tracked it down.  The loss is occuring in the link between
    two of my switches.  The link goes across my apartment - about 60 feet of
    Cat-5 cable.  That should be well within spec (you are supposed to be
    able to do 100 meters) but it causes packet loss.  The switches 
    autonegotiate full-duplex for the link (and I verified that it's actually
    running at full duplex), but that's where the packet loss occurs.  Very
    weird.

    I was finally able to fix it by dropping in a 10BaseT hub to force the
    switches to negotiate 10BaseT across the link.

    Maybe my cable is damaged or something.  I'll run a second cable to see
    if that's the problem or whether.

    The second switch is a LinkSys.  I have a D-Link near my servers and a
    LinkSys near my workstation.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>



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