From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 9 20:07:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23186 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:07:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23181 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:07:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id FAA23025; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 05:07:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 05:07:25 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: perry@zso.dec.com (Reginald Perry) Cc: Subject: Re: PC Magazine 10/20/1998 Article about FreeBSD References: <69CAF7F9AF57D2118D9A0000F881B4DD02F312@zsoexc1.zso.dec.com> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 10 Oct 1998 05:07:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: perry@zso.dec.com's message of "Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:32:21 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 37 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id UAA23182 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org perry@zso.dec.com (Reginald Perry) writes: > The problem is that the author asserted that the reason FreeBSD+Apache did > not get those gains is because of a cache problem with FreeBSD+Apache. In > order to back that statement up there needed to be another set of data > showing max ops/second vs. amount of RAM and then some text stating that > they talked to someone associated with FreeBSD who indeed verifyed that it > was a cache problem. I think it must have been part misunderstanding and part misexpression. The cause for the difference is (as far as I've understood) not a "cache problem in Apache + FreeBSD" but rather the fact that IIS4 caches documents aggressively (memory permitting) in order to look good in benchmarks. Apache doesn't, because it doesn't work on a real-life high-traffic site and it's not worth it on a small low-traffic site... Interestingly, I ran into Gisle Hannemyr (founder of Norway's first commercial ISP) earlier today in a lab at Uni; he was busy scanning a box of Pep (a retired brand of detergent) to make icons for a "file washer" program he maintains (called pep), and I was busy rebooting one of my test boxes after a make world (which hadn't run to completion, but that's a different story). He's always been a BSD fan, and keeps recommending FreeBSD to customers when he does consulting (I think he switched over from BSDI). I mentioned the benchmark; he said he was regularly impressed by FreeBSD's performance and especially its network throughput. Not bad coming from the guy who used to Norway's number one expert on commercial Internet solutions. BTW, Gisle has a very interesting home page (he calls it a virtual workbook): . I especially recommend the nerd test. DES (it's been a loooong day...) -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message