From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 23 14:55:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B4616A418 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@fnop.net) Received: from core.fnop.net (mx.fnop.net [82.102.11.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D1513C46B for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@fnop.net) Received: from core.fnop.net (mx.fnop.net [82.102.11.82]) by core.fnop.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A60D690E6A; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:49:22 +0100 (WEST) Received: by core.fnop.net (Postfix, from userid 1015) id 21F37690E70; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:49:22 +0100 (WEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on core.fnop.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RCVD_IN_DSBL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.1.7 Received: from epsilon.local (87-196-25-226.net.novis.pt [87.196.25.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by core.fnop.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A168690E6A; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:49:20 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <46A4B35B.8050605@fnop.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:55:39 +0100 From: Rui Paulo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070704) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin References: <18082.16126.915890.401438@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <46A37B6B.2050901@fnop.net> <18084.40711.665845.826349@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <46A4BC5E.6080006@uni-paderborn.de> <18084.48565.688142.945366@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> In-Reply-To: <18084.48565.688142.945366@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: current@freebsd.org, Arne Schwabe Subject: Re: freebsd-current@lists.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:55:45 -0000 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Arne Schwabe writes: > > Andrew Gallatin schrieb: > > > Rui Paulo writes: > > > > > I'm about to plug the firewire disk into another box and install using > > > > > make installworld DESTDIR=/firewire_disk, but this is the sort of > > > > > thing that would really, really put off your typical FreeBSD would-be > > > > > adopter. Is there anything we can do to fix this in the 7.0 > > > > > timeframe? > > > > > > > > As a workaround try using a 6.2 CD. > > > > > > > > > > > On a somewhat related note, how well does FreeBSD even work on > > > > > an iMac? Can we suspend/resume SMP machines yet? > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > Argh. Screwed at every turn. As it turns out, I can't even make my > > > machine boot a "legacy" OS from a firewire disk. Both FreeBSD and > > > Ubuntu lead to a "no bootable device" error when booting directly, and > > > rEFIt also fails (with some interesting comments regarding how apple's > > > firmware does not deal well with booting a legacy OS from firwewire). > > > I ran out of time before I could shuffle MacOSX to the external drive > > > to free up the internal one for FreeBSD. > > > > > > Oh well, back to MacOSX and dealing with X crashing every few weeks. > > > > > > > > You could resize your hfs+ parition (diskutil) and put a small boot > > parition on your internal harddisk. Works fine on my Macbook Pro (but > > still not usable, missing GPU support :( ) > > That's an option, but I was initially reluctant to touch > my internal disk. I'm also somewhat upset that the machine > can boot BSD or Linux only from an internal drive. If I were > to convert it to FreeBSD, then I'd be totally hosed when the internal > drive dies (its really buried in an iMac). Have you tried booting BSD from Firewire with the help of rEFit? http://refit.sf.net -- Rui Paulo