From owner-freebsd-current Thu Feb 6 14:40:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11637 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA11558 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0vscTX-00077M-00; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:39:27 -0700 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Karl fulminates, film at 11. == thanks Cc: Craig Shaver , current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Feb 1997 14:14:17 PST." <23444.855180857@time.cdrom.com> References: <23444.855180857@time.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:39:26 -0700 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <23444.855180857@time.cdrom.com> "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: : Lest someone else be tempted to emulate this unfortunate practice to : get results, let me just be the first to say that "kicking the core : team in the butt" for security reasons (or any other concern) is as : pointless and unkind as slapping your mother for feeding you a meal : you didn't quite like. Such a technique it might even work once or : twice, leading you to believe that the core team responds well to : having their feet put to the fire, but after that you will have burned : so many bridges that it has no long-term strategic value. I just want to say that -core has been supportive of any and all security related efforts that I have brought to their attention. OpenBSD has fixed a lot of stuff, and I've been reviewing them (slowly) and they have helped me fix a few problems as well. A nice, polite note to -core offering to do work in this area was all that it took to get this response. Didn't want to announce anything until I had made significant progress, which due to excessive chaos in my personal life I've not been able to do. Warner