Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:06:10 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> To: Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: with the cvs history? trying to help INDEX builds. Message-ID: <4F1966C2.6090908@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <CADLo83-n_C9h-eLSMZ%2B23s_piocyNuTy_VsNxkKK2RZAA_wG-Q@mail.gmail.com> References: <4F177264.3090708@freebsd.org> <4F17DB1C.6080503@infracaninophile.co.uk> <CADLo83-WtVmyGHM=O4FbTNbDy9h=A1t111bP6eYc%2BTL8-RGmuA@mail.gmail.com> <4F193FD5.8070208@infracaninophile.co.uk> <CADLo83-n_C9h-eLSMZ%2B23s_piocyNuTy_VsNxkKK2RZAA_wG-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On 20/01/2012 12:53, Chris Rees wrote:
> On 20 Jan 2012 10:20, "Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk=
>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 20/01/2012 09:18, Chris Rees wrote:
>>> On 19 Jan 2012 08:58, "Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.=
uk>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 19/01/2012 01:31, Michael Scheidell wrote:
>>
>>>>> anyway, worth the cycles?
>>>>> take out -.include <bsd.port.pre.mk>; -.if ${ARCH} =3D=3D "sparc64"=
>>>>> -BROKEN=3D Does not install on sparc64
>>>>> -.endif
>>>>> and replace it with NOT_FOR_ARCHS=3D sparc64 ?
>>
>>>> I'd say worth it to standardize on NOT_FOR_ARCHS / ONLY_FOR_ARCHS to=
>>>> handle this sort of thing. By my calculations there are 28 ports th=
at
>>>> set 'BROKEN' because of architecture incompatibility on my amd64
>>>> system[*], whereas there are 904 ports that set either ONLY_FOR_ARCH=
S
> or
>>>> NOT_FOR_ARCHS.
>>
>>> No, it's not worth it :)
>>>
>>> This means we won't be able to differentiate between BROKEN and IGNOR=
E.
>>
>> Not even if people make use of the {NOT,ONLY}_FOR_ARCHS_REASON or
>> {NOT,ONLY}_FOR_ARCHS_REASON_${ARCH} variables?
>>
>> Actually I take your point, that it should be possible to distinguish
>> between ports that permanently won't work on some architectures by
>> design, and ports that temporarily don't work because of mistakes or
>> broken dependencies or so forth, and that are expected to be fixed
>> sooner rather than later. Unfortunately those two cases are already
>> pretty confused. For instance (arbitrarily picking out a few grep hit=
s):
>>
>> ./audio/amarok-kde4/Makefile:NOT_FOR_ARCHS_REASON_sparc64=3D
> "GCC-related
>> build error"
>> ./audio/openal/Makefile:NOT_FOR_ARCHS_REASON_ia64=3D does not com=
pile
>> ./biology/migrate/Makefile:ONLY_FOR_ARCHS_REASON=3D Does not com=
pile
>>
>> Where 'does not compile' or 'fails to install' are similarly the most
>> popular reasons given for arch-related brokenness using the BROKEN
>> variable. Given the banal and uninformative nature of such reasons,
>> there's no easy way to tell if this is a temporary condition or not.
>>
>> Hmm... Perhaps if there was a BROKEN_FOR_ARCH{,_REASON{,${ARCH}}} set =
of
>> variables documented alongside the other ..FOR_ARCH variables?
>=20
> Occasionally someone runs an exp- for sparc64 (lol) etc.
>=20
> They use TRYBROKEN to test packages marked BROKEN, but ONLY_FOR_ARCHS s=
ets
> IGNORE.
>=20
> Ports marked this way (incorrectly) will never be tested, and thus neve=
r
> marked fixed.
>=20
Yes, I understand thae distinction between BROKEN and IGNORE, thank you
very much. So the BROKEN_FOR_ARCH variable family should ultimately set
BROKEN rather than IGNORE. Obviously.
Matthew
--=20
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
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