From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 8 00:09:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA78016A4DD; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:09:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl (smtp16.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E8443D72; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:09:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akruijff@dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG500GBH9SAQE@smtp16.wxs.nl>; Sun, 08 May 2005 02:09:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j4809bfK010374; Sun, 08 May 2005 02:09:37 +0200 (CEST envelope-from akruijff@dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j4809bSm010373; Sun, 08 May 2005 02:09:37 +0200 (CEST envelope-from akruijff@dds.nl) Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 02:09:37 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org> To: Marc Fonvieille Message-id: <20050508000937.GG1896@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan> <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to akruijff@dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 00:09:48 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 10:38:04AM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:49:23AM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > > > > > Well, the "Mailing lists" link on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ homepage > > > points on > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL > > > > That true and this would be a fine argument if this where the only way > > to get the list adress. This isn't the case. Now it the warning you > > get, afther you get before you are realy on the list, would point to > > this stating it got the conditions then this would be a compelling > > argument. > > > > All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their > archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit > the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. I take you word for it. I didn't realy mean to fight this. More the mirroring (excluded www.xx.freebsd.org) like google and such. > Another thing, I do not really see many ways to discover the existence > of a FreeBSD mailing list: > > - from archives via google or the FreeBSD.org search system > - from FreeBSD.org docs > - from the www.FreeBSD.org front page > - from a clairvoyant? > > and these ways (at least most of them) clearly indicate the existence of > archives. > Anyway, it's just a false problem, it makes me think about a person > going to a TV show then later refusing to have "his face" recorded and > broadcasted... Sending a mail to a maillinglist means sending thousend of copies to the subscribers. This is a natural thing just like going on a TV show means it going to be broadcast. But having it go into a archive is not a natural thing. Thats way a user should be pointed to this. (As is the case.) This is also true for the mirroring to other non freebsd related sites like google. I beleave this is not the case. -- Alex