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So if something is not being addressed > it > > means that there is nobody who cares enough and has the time and the > skills > > to address it. Which means that for it to happen someone who does has t= o > > step up and make it happen and not someone who is already giving their > time > > to something they feel is more important/interesting/doable/fun/... > they're > > doing their bit in their own way. > > This. > > The open source world has produced so much for so many for little to not > reward for their time and effort, that it has created an expectation > that everyone's problem has, more than likely, been already fixed by > someone else. And that if that problem has no fix, well then, "someone > has to fix it". > > I think it's important to remind folk that the open source world is not > some conglomerate, with tons of buildings hosting thousands of > developers being paid by the second. No. It's men and women in everyday > clothing and slippers, sitting in their studies, living rooms, bedrooms > and neighborhood cafes, at 3AM coding the ideas that struck them earlier > in the shower. > > Mark. > > This is a great response and reminder. I would only add that these developers also have family members and pets that both demand and deserve their time. They don=E2=80=99t just exist for us; and they deserve their t= ime. Andrew --000000000000aaf25505db60913e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 8:35 PM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.a= frica> wrote:


On 3/28/22 22:31, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Many of them may share the frustrations but = have their hands full
> with what they're already doing. So if something is not being addr= essed it
> means that there is nobody who cares enough and has the time and the s= kills
> to address it. Which means that for it to happen someone who does has = to
> step up and make it happen and not someone who is already giving their= time
> to something they feel is more important/interesting/doable/fun/... th= ey're
> doing their bit in their own way.

This.

The open source world has produced so much for so many for little to not reward for their time and effort, that it has created an expectation
that everyone's problem has, more than likely, been already fixed by someone else. And that if that problem has no fix, well then, "someone=
has to fix it".

I think it's important to remind folk that the open source world is not=
some conglomerate, with tons of buildings hosting thousands of
developers being paid by the second. No. It's men and women in everyday=
clothing and slippers, sitting in their studies, living rooms, bedrooms and neighborhood cafes, at 3AM coding the ideas that struck them earlier in the shower.

Mark.

This is a great response and reminder.=C2=A0 I wou= ld only add that these developers also have family members and pets that bo= th demand and deserve their time.=C2=A0 They don=E2=80=99t just exist for u= s; and they deserve their time.=C2=A0
Andrew
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