From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 05:07:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DF116A420 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 05:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao103.cox.net (eastrmmtao103.cox.net [68.230.240.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F2F13C46B for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 05:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20071204050754.VQMX16684.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net>; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 00:07:54 -0500 Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([24.255.149.218]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id LV7e1Y0054iy4EG0000000; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:07:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:12:55 -0600 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <47547FEE.9040405@gmail.com> <475489E4.2050704@gmail.com> <20071204014805.24d2f25f@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4754C396.3060007@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4754C396.3060007@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.24 (Linux) Cc: RW , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:07:55 -0000 On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:03:50 -0600, Aryeh M. Friedman = wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jeremy Messenger wrote: >> On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:23:20 -0600, Aryeh Friedman >> wrote: >> >>>> >>>> >>>> Having said that dependencies often do depend on the order the leav= es >>>> are installed, because some ports will use alternate dependencies >>>> according to what's already there. It makes things a lot easier to >>>> maintain. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> btw xdm is not the worst offender for example if you install abiword= >>> after installing gnome it will not start but if you install it befor= e >>> hand then install gnome no issue >> >> Have you report this to gnome@FreeBSD.org yet? The abiword port will >> enable with GNOME option by default if GNOME exists in system, but >> you can avoid that by use WITHOUT_GNOME=3Dyes. You want to rewrite >> ports system because of this? >> > > It was one of several examples... Still a bad example from you anyway, because it is not a bug in ports = system. Cheers, Mezz > jesus how I wish I could post some > of the private replies I got so people could see the amount of > frustration out there with the current system but that would color > other replies so I will wait until I don't get any new survey replies > for 24 hrs then I will post a summary and verbatum the ones the > orginal authors let me do this with. > > > - -- > Aryeh M. Friedman > FloSoft Systems > Developer, not business, friendly > http://www.flosoft-systems.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHVMOW358R5LPuPvsRAg9zAJ0W8m1qTLp7lQ22G78oJS8DSgrr7wCdHgsA > fGrYY61Uq9pWI5dg0dIFqzg=3D > =3D57V5 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- = mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team - FreeBSD Multimedia Hat (ports, not src) http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org http://wiki.freebsd.org/multimedia - multimedia@FreeBSD.org