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Date:      Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:29:13 -0600
From:      "Brandon Hicks" <fbsdsec@killaz-r-us.com>
To:        <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Fw: Remote logging
Message-ID:  <008201c099fa$38ab5480$57304c42@main.cox-internet.com>

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Hicks <fbsdsec@killaz-r-us.com>
To: Carroll Kong <damascus@home.com>
Date: Sunday, February 18, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Remote logging


>My FreeBSD box is down, so i can't check this out.... We are moving around
>some things in the new server room. But I'm about to have 8 FreeBSD Boxes
>up, and plus one here in my office... with no daemon running on it and only
>to monitor the others.  So, I would like this Information as well.  Can
>someone see if syslogd says something when killed?  If not can someone
write
>a patch for it, to make it says something like "Syslogd: Killed" at
>least....
>
>Brandon Hicks
>bjh
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carroll Kong <damascus@home.com>
>To: Brian Reichert <reichert@numachi.com>
>Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Date: Sunday, February 18, 2001 12:42 PM
>Subject: Re: Remote logging
>
>
>>At 01:22 PM 2/18/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>>What?  Syslog?
>>>
>>>Set up a secured box, with syslogd:
>>>
>>>   loghost# syslogd -a 192.186/16
>>>
>>>Have this machine configured to write many machines' logs into
>>>whatever scheme you find useful for analysis.
>>>
>>>Have your other boxes have syslogd configured with something as
>>>simple as:
>>>
>>>   *.* @loghost
>>>
>>>There are additional steps you can take to keep syslogd immune from
>>>DNS outages; read the manpages.
>>>
>>>Make sure all fo your boxes are syncroninzed via NTP.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Ragnar
>>>
>>>--
>>>Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert            <reichert@numachi.com>
>>
>>That is a good idea, however, what is to stop the enemy from killing
>>syslogd as his first option?  I do not think syslogd logs when it gets
>>killed?  So, despite the secure log host, he might not get the valuable
>>info he needs.  I suppose you could then start speculating a break in if
>>there are no more MARKs since syslogd is dead.  Even that could be
>>fabricated I suppose.  Ugh.  Security sure is tough to implement
>>fully.  Not trying to say you are wrong, just that I am curious how does
>>one stop this possible problem?  Have you found a way to avoid it?
>>
>>-Carroll Kong
>>
>>
>>
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