From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 16 17:39:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15472 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15467 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:39:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA84133; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:47:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <199812170147.RAA84133@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) In-Reply-To: <50335.913857664@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Dec 16, 1998 5:21: 4 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:47:24 -0800 (PST) Cc: bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu, bs_13943_34262@adimus.de, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Jordan K. Hubbard: > > And I was willing to let the matter drop, but the flame content > > of the replies to Steve Kargl's comments seem unwarranted IMO. > > So, let me point out to those who seem so unsympathetic (and I am > > NOT ANY LONGER SUGGESTING THE ADDITION OF FORTRAN TO THE BASE > > SYSTEM -- shouting done on purpose!) the basis of my suggestion > > FWIW, I would be more than happy to see fortran be a part of the > base system. Yes it's big and gnarly, but there's a lot of fortran > still out there and most number crunching weenies don't want to take > time out to figure out how to install the stupid thing, they just > want to get their work done. Hey, I resemble that remark ;-) > My only reservation here is that most truly decent fortran compilers > are commercial and I have to wonder at the general utility of any of > the freebie versions. You are correct. Unfortunately, there is only 1 native FreeBSD commerical Fortran compiler from NAG. Portland Group Inc's Fortran compiler for linux works under emulation. These products cost around $400USD to $500USD. g77 is getting better. Anyway, to close this thread, I am looking into the possibility of building a f77 port that provides our current functionality. I've already found that our version of f2c is somewhat out of sync with netlib, and I expect it will take a few days to get things squared away. Finally, has anyone considered the implications of 64-bit processors and how we build f2c (think EQUIVALENCE statements involving integers and real data types). -- Steve finger kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~clesceri/kargl.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message