From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 2 20:04:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5024571; Thu, 2 Apr 2015 20:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x236.google.com (mail-ob0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98CCDC41; Thu, 2 Apr 2015 20:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbgh1 with SMTP id gh1so138254638obb.1; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:04:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VmJ222OcUfN53aXPDEjDiRFsKEQQUr3MJOECKUTCmv8=; b=P9bUPWTul5g1KXMj+jITpAPqEAwsM+eY3wIKmXlEPZN3Z1RM6hrlicCRo49RtUXNCl GtQFDZcCN1HX0V2jcIAVjAYxlhwFjHKOO9ZlULf7q9gse0nVlNfrOHwpJBMJKtWsTh+Y nZVkeliIekxl/flrm1mFiF0NGSLFrU1ZFq2yVVjSZ7mJl6APSoaPfzvy2tItQYMPCopi fZLiYe8uh/+GKc1kmAJAMDLI38HHidWSu9Wfr5GVtR+6vyCOm8zZmG8fPudcTcD58nxM SisgDMu/8UG0IzNdSirPxICk3JGQZoif38kR9ATEFhwXD3IYxcX40sp9RxzlZGIYA9qs Azhg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.33.106 with SMTP id q10mr48119403oei.67.1428005049501; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: royce.williams@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.79.205 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Apr 2015 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.79.205 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Apr 2015 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 12:04:09 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3SvuA2SZRB_hTc29khbmhF_7LiE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry) From: Royce Williams To: Chris H X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 21:09:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Eitan Adler , Samuel Cassiba , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:04:10 -0000 On Apr 2, 2015 9:44 AM, "Chris H" wrote: > > IMHO I believe that the height of the bar, is directly proportionate > to the quality of the product. We were all new once. There are many reasons - language, social fluidity, economic background, etc. - for which a too-high initial hurdle can make a high bar so insurmountable as to prevent valuable contributors from getting in at all. Mentorship needs to take this into account. The trick is maintaining quality control at higher volumes, without quashing newbie enthusiasm. :) There are tools for managing this somewhat, but open source needs to grow more in this area. Royce