From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 18 18:14:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AD9106566B; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F311A8FC12; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAED14DC6E7; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:56:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.mypc.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VG2GuWdfnlHa; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:56:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (catv-80-99-92-167.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.92.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 72FEC14DC315; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:56:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C6C1EB1.5000004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:56:01 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rui Paulo References: <65F17C45-55C1-4349-A4D1-A3D6AD0D9A80@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <65F17C45-55C1-4349-A4D1-A3D6AD0D9A80@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "arch@freebsd.org" , netchild@FreeBSD.org, "current@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: Removal of ICC (intel compiler) bits from mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:14:48 -0000 Em 2010.08.18. 19:37, Rui Paulo escreveu: > On 18 Aug 2010, at 18:18, Garrett Cooper wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Rui Paulo wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I've been chatting with the ICC ex-users and they seem to be ok with the removal of the ICC bits from share/mk and other places. >>> The reason is that it doesn't work and no one has volunteered to fix it for many years. This seems to indicate that the interest in ICC is low. >>> If there's anyone against this, speak now or forever be silent. :-) >> Later versions of icc are more gcc compliant aren't they? If so, >> wouldn't this also be a non-issue to remove the bits, or are there >> still some incompatibilities between gcc and icc that are worth >> noting? > I really don't know how compatible is the latest icc because no one ever updated the ports version. This is actually a hint that no one really uses this anymore. IIRC, apart from the low interest, the problem was that because of ICC's license using ICC to test this mk stuff requires a commercial license because somehow it is considered a derivative work. It has also prevented us from providing better support. In 2006, I wanted to do some progress as part of my SoC project because that time there was more interest. Alexander (CC'd) may comment on this. I think he has a license for FreeBSD work but he is not allowed to give it out to a third party. Gabor