From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 28 15:32:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8C7C66; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A2B727C0; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tom.home (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9SFWJND020797; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:32:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 kib.kiev.ua r9SFWJND020797 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r9SFWJBw020796; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:32:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:32:19 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Aleksandr Rybalko Subject: Re: newcons comming Message-ID: <20131028153219.GM59496@kib.kiev.ua> References: <20131025151847.2a1b83de93335040797ceaf1@ddteam.net> <526B812C.5000403@gmx.com> <20131026223240.098168fd.ray@freebsd.org> <1382816246.1493.1.camel@localhost> <20131028110945.796c67422f2b83dc092b938a@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fDP66DSfTvWAYVew" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131028110945.796c67422f2b83dc092b938a@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on tom.home Cc: Sean Bruno , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Aleksandr Rybalko , dt71@gmx.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:32:28 -0000 --fDP66DSfTvWAYVew Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:09:45AM +0200, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 15:37:25 -0400 > Sean Bruno wrote: >=20 > > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:32 +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:45:32 +0200 > > > dt71@gmx.com wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Suppose that Newcons gets in quickly. I use a Radeon 9600 card. Will > > > > I see something useful on my screen (with KMS and the new Xorg and > > > > things like that), or will my screen be black? > > >=20 > > > Yup, you will get normal virtual terminal, but a bit bigger than > > > 640x480. It is main reason why x11 team ask me to merge newcons ASAP. > > > Newcons can use framebuffer provided by DRM. > > >=20 > > > Try it yourself. > > >=20 > > > WBW > >=20 > >=20 > > So, I'm running NEW Xorg now and KMS with an NVidia card. What should I > > do to test this? What are the expected results? > >=20 > > sean >=20 > Spend several hours to try to bring nvidia unit in my laptop. But it is > "Optimus". It looks like working, but both output show same picture :))) > And this is right-side of desktop (if you run xorg) :) > So I can't answer your question yet. > Think we have to ask nvidia to share some info on how to call their KMS > inside kernel (not via /dev/card/dri node). Nvidia binary driver does not support KMS. Optimus is really not a full video adapter. Optimus chips (usually) do not have video outputs attached at all, GPU does only rendering into the aperture of the Intel GPU. --fDP66DSfTvWAYVew Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSboOCAAoJEJDCuSvBvK1BNnYQAIelHGpUgJg5ArcVKgIsWufx eR2WKuaKnXXYl4bnnm7aKle3XsmKnNN4OS4eV+mi3ezeRFhGy8AQUehK76a4oRKh UdUTfhiYdkh7+MiJZG21L9hlq3ugbvV9kH8fl7uZJlmFvmmVmh4hiZNDm3QzjXrg FtlKL2kkl+Ldg2ZQwsNS74SxUi3iVfDQxKSN9ngq2H7qLjjCO3gDRTNdLp1VfZe4 5d27q+kOUNPDz3P3fCqAr0gGMpTLvI1R1FZjyQmX6uixnmJ/1XHrRfRvAdaEN2WT GhztfnWwtkAocmS2QVmbtFLh9VQFTj9r/t4gSNth3OK3XNvoDr3zu1J+y50RA082 dOZiFoJoNmlcdBSbbKyeIJU+N71FzzBPCFE+Fhx1WRDIXSdfZR2p+uKeL2IhmrK/ M1m8j1Xug+Dgxph0+BHFguQHRLAyVteAu8xtz/jk++fORd2G8d3ed5q53s8YCRHH HMaczuJzehFNK+5bhtnHizQ3pi28utzopu062s99xoNLGopKQitqNBROBy8YVSyk F/pzeskfiZ/3i+inj5qgS/EEnrAaU+JFlwggfNr4POylIznPGMMUv91tSjcBsnOw WYvxl/099HxFkfWVAjZ2k1WkmMMDOUu4nhws2lQOXwIl3h3wmlaMP4XkTywL4Q6K IEB/SDmcX5TLj019f9/x =S/Du -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fDP66DSfTvWAYVew--