From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 12:57:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425A416A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:57:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542EA43D46 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:57:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bram@moolenaar.net) Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=50106 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ak8Mt-0002Jw-TN; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:57:31 +0100 Received: from cp52318-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl ([217.123.168.93]:2725 helo=moolenaar.net) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ak8Ms-00029L-Fv; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:57:30 +0100 Received: from masaka.moolenaar.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moolenaar.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0NKtuQT003680; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:55:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Bram@moolenaar.net) Message-Id: <200401232055.i0NKtuQT003680@moolenaar.net> To: Joe Marcus Clarke In-Reply-To: <1074883274.768.58.camel@gyros> From: Bram Moolenaar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:55:56 +0100 Sender: Bram@moolenaar.net X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean cc: FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: Re: Build of Mozilla failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:57:49 -0000 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > That raises these questions: > > > > - What is the difference between mozilla-devel and mozillafirebird? > > Firebird is the newer,... Thanks for the answers. But the real question was where on www.freebsd.org this can be found. I'm not the only one that is looking for them! > more polished browser built from the Mozilla tree. It aims to replace > Netscape/Mozilla as the front-end browser piece. Have a look at > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird. I suppose that's another thing to try out and see if it's stable enough for me to use... > > - I have some trouble with the ordinary mozilla, will this be solved by > > installing mozilla-devel or mozillafirebird? > > Not sure. What problems? Slow loading of pages, some parts of pages are not displayed. Would have to look into the page sources to find out why (perhaps it's javascript or something like that). I also see that my KDE color preferences mess up how the toolbar looks. > > - What are the -gtk2 and -bonobo versions? > > The gtk2 version is needed for building gtk2-based browsers like galeon2 > and epiphany which require Mozilla as a base. mozilla-bonobo is a > Mozilla plug-in that enables one to embed bonobo controls into Mozilla > (e.g. ggv, gpdf, gnumeric, etc.). And, eh, do I need it? I was hoping for an answer like "it runs faster but requires installing GTK2" or "uses more memory and doesn't offer more features". [...] > > - Do I have to try them all out to be able to decide what works for me? > > Or ask others. I use galeon2 as my primary browser, and only bring up > Firebird for certain apps. This means I also have mozilla-gtk2 > installed. As it is now the answer is probably "install them all, you never know which one you need to use" :-). > > Would be very nice if there is a page on www.freebsd.org that explains > > all this. > > Perhaps this is something we can add if someone steps up to write some > content. Considering how much effort it has been to make all these ports, explaining people what the differences are can't be that much work. Unless the porters don't want anyone to know about their efforts... > > I already discovered that flashplugin-mozilla stinks. And it appears to > > be slow. I went back to my Netscape 7.1 (linux version) for now. But I > > can't manage to make Java work with that one, while it does work with > > mozilla (native). > > You may want to look at the flashpluginwrapper for the native Mozilla. > This will require 4.9 or better (and with 4.X, you'll need a base OS > patch as well). I'm still running 4.8. I only upgrade once in a while (takes too much time and always causes new trouble). Sounds complicated, I'll stick with Netscape 7.1 and run mozilla when I need Java. One annoying thing: can't run them at the same time, because when starting mozilla it sees that Netscape is running and opens a tab inside it... -- It is illegal for anyone to try and stop a child from playfully jumping over puddles of water. [real standing law in California, United States of America] /// Bram Moolenaar -- Bram@Moolenaar.net -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ /// Sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\ Project leader for A-A-P -- http://www.A-A-P.org /// \\\ Help AIDS victims, buy here: http://ICCF-Holland.org/click1.html ///