From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 18 9:40:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from topsecret.net (gill.apk.net [207.54.148.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B34414FD4 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gill@topsecret.net) Received: from stumpy by topsecret.net with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP5.R) for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:39:02 -0400 From: "James Gill" To: , "'Freebsd-Security@Freebsd. Org'" Cc: "Harry M. Leitzell" Subject: OpenBSD (FW: Please do not take this above statement too lightly, since the project is typically not in strong financial health.) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:38:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Return-Path: gill@topsecret.net Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, Harry, I guess you were right. Nevermind, go back to your chores. (cores?) --gill -----Original Message----- From: Theo de Raadt [mailto:deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 12:05 PM Subject: Re: Please do not take this above statement too lightly, since the project is typically not in strong financial health. Not in your life. Sorry. You better read up on history. http://theos.com/deraadt/coremail And search archives. > > Hi Theo. > > You don't know me, I'm just a (relatively new) *BSD user making his > way in the world out of the clutches of a microsoft-dominated > landscape. > > While exploring the *BSD community I learned of the different projects > (Free, Open, Net) and wondered aloud why these projects were not more > closely aligned. When I read on your website that the project was in > grave danger due to lack of funding I became concerned because in my > security work I've heard OpenBSD highly regarded and I anticipate that > the future can only bring further improvements. > > My concern lead me to make some posts in the freebsd-security mailing > list where I made the following comment and recived the response from > one Jordan K. Hubbard: > ------------------------------------------------ > > I dunno, perhaps this is an opportune time to try to coordinate the > > projects? > > It's never been a question of money, coordination, or really anything > at all to do with engineering. It has everything to do with one or > more individuals volunteering the time necessary for making something > like this happen. > > That also goes for just about every other obvious idea or clear > shortcoming that one might note for FreeBSD - if it's obvious or > clear, chances are excellent that it's been both suggested many times > and failed many times due to lack of this one key missing ingredient. > :) > > - Jordan > ------------------------------------------------ > > And before I go and open my big mouth and say how excited I would be > to do My Part, I wanted to know what your views were on the situation? > How willing is OpenBSD to try to coordinate it's strengths with the > FreeBSD project and vice versa to implement the best of both? > > regards, > --gill > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message