From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun May 24 12:00:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24959 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24881 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 11:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17202; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:00:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: kuehl@lgk.de cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A proposal for focus. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 24 May 1998 20:16:42 +0200." Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 12:00:17 -0700 Message-ID: <17198.896036417@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The 'shouting' reflects structural shortcomings of the FreeBSD project. I'm afraid I was unable to parse this paragraph at all, sorry. :( What specifically do you see as a shortcoming we could try to rectify? > How would you define the 'free software community'. Is Linux still part of it I'm not really concerned with how Linux categorizes itself right now, my principle worry being that we're beginning to have an identity crisis of our own. We need to re-focus on the fact that we are, first and foremost, a free software project which is principally maintained by people who really like free software and wouldn't even BE here were it not for that fact. There's a good parable about a goose which lays golden eggs and its greedy owners cutting it open to get the eggs out faster which would probably apply here. I'm all for measured progress towards a series of greater goals, but frankly I'm feeling rather PUSHED here these days to Go Commercial and I don't like it. I'll do it when I'm damn good and ready and not one minute before, thank you very much. In the meantime, there's a world of promotion to do strictly within the free software community, promotion which will pay big dividends later, and we need to be just a little more patient about it. Many folks say that that linux has about a 3 year lead on FreeBSD, and it's simply going to take us some time to make that up. They also say that Linux has several million hobbiests who have made Linux their personal passion and I'd like to be able to say the same thing for FreeBSD before I even think about commercial ventures. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message