From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 02:31:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EC116A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:31:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BD343D49 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:31:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so283190wri for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:31:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eojCW1ompCFWgtvL8HM2ThezmWl6dGLNP3tupvxE4CPyLUeZ7bVybgDEG+Ydq/9VSyjshIq7fDgPTvEo3o8kLpxkd8L1rxwVCvoHfVTFuVJkPeSzpv/QiOBd4nbhWSsHtRuSzt8pWCQbjoVAGuUkYq+Xg74Sx++mUyh7Ayfs7wc= Received: by 10.54.54.4 with SMTP id c4mr2592586wra; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.2 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:31:46 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mark@gaiahost.coop In-Reply-To: <20050627012627.GB3088@pooh.hubcapconsulting.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506261830.MAA29221@lariat.org> <42BF15DB.7030303@cs.tu-berlin.de> <20050627012627.GB3088@pooh.hubcapconsulting.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Best hardware to mirror IDE drives under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nikolas Britton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:31:47 -0000 On 6/26/05, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: >=20 > On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 10:53:47PM +0200, Bj=F6rn K=F6nig wrote: >=20 > > Even most cheap ATA chipsets have hot-swap capabilities. >=20 > I didn't know hot swap was possible with software raid! >=20 > How can I tell if the ATA chipset on my system has hot-swap capability? >=20 It's an electrical issue not software/firmware/chipset. When you do this you run the risk of damaging the motherboard, the drive, and/or the power supply. There are ways you can mitigate this, for example a real hot-swap cage etc., but like I said, the ATA bus was never designed to do this. Short out the +12v and/or +5v to ground on your PSU and see what happens. Does it have a protection relay circuit?, you better hope so! It's easier then you think to accidentally short one of those two wires to gnd, I've done it a few times. Want to try your luck with 40 pins?