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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 12:54:39PM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote:
> > > I think it would be prudent to add a nice fat "WARNING:" printf to the
> > > boot process.  It's really not obvious that FreeBSD defaults to having
> > > your hard drives run "unsafely," even though it is usually faster.
> > >
> >
> > I think that this was discussed too.  The problem is that Linux and
> > Windows also silently default to having it on, and breaking from that
> > status quo causes too much haertburn.
>
> The status quo of FreeBSD and Linux shouldn't really apply to FreeBSD...
> we're supposed to be about stability and correctness.
>

Whoa there.  What part of 'biblically bad things happen when you change
this' did you not understand?  Go look in the email archives to see the
previous discussion.  In short, I agree that it's not ideal, but I don't
agree that your assertion that it must be changed.  Not everything is
black and white here.

Scott