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Date:      Wed, 2 May 2012 21:24:48 +0700
From:      Erich Dollansky <erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
Cc:        Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk>
Subject:   Re: laptop very hot and noisy
Message-ID:  <201205022124.49071.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com>
In-Reply-To: <20120502140956.029cab60.freebsd@edvax.de>
References:  <20120501120654.GA4883@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <201205020619.50474.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120502140956.029cab60.freebsd@edvax.de>

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Hi,

On Wednesday 02 May 2012 19:09:56 Polytropon wrote:
> On Wed, 2 May 2012 06:19:50 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 May 2012 20:52:11 Polytropon wrote:
> > > On Tue, 1 May 2012 13:41:11 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 08:25:11AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> > > 
> > > Not a big issue. Make sure you can remember which parts belong where.
> > > Make photos if it helps you, or draw some notes. If possible, find
> > > the service manual of the device and use it as orientation. But I
> > > think such kind of documentation is no longer part of the "end user
> > > book present". :-)
> > > 
> > you cannot say this in general.
> 
> I didn't intend to. From my limited experience (considering "modern"
> home consumer throw-away laptops and netbooks) there's hardly any
> usable documentation. A "start-up guide" is among the few printed
> materials. DVDs often contain drivers and a few instructions (e. g.

even with the professional class, it is the same.

> how to plug in the power supply), but things starting with opening
> the device are typically left out. However, I welcome manufacturers
> providing service manuals so a skilled user can use them. A typical
> problem (as you described) can appear when special screwdrivers,

The said thing is that they all have but not all publish them.

> glue, spare parts or other tools are needed for repair that cannot
> be purchased freely (or easily). In such cases, repair attempts
> would often be more expensive than replacing the whole device.

Not with the professional class machines. But the chemicals needed are a problem there too.
> 
> > > I've been lucky exploring that my "new" Lenovo Thinkpad T61p can be
> > 
> > This is a different class of machines. They are made to be
> > repaired and they are very large.
> 
> Both is correct, and I'm happy of that. :-)

The largest screen I ever have had was 13.3". They did not have anything smaller those days. My best experience comes from a 10" LCD. I have had to settle now for 12.5". Ok, it has one plus. The keys are of normal size. And I learned that the machine is very robust again.

Erich



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