From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 03:43:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1130616A424 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:43:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aiy@ferens.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEE643D48 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:43:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aiy@ferens.net) Received: from ferens.net ([67.188.76.62]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050721034343015001tno6e>; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:43:43 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.201] ([192.168.1.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by ferens.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6L3hYQ0000889 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:43:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aiy@ferens.net) From: Alexey Yakimovich To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:43:33 -0700 Message-Id: <1121917413.4895.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 (2.0.4-4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-FerensNet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-FerensNet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-FerensNet-MailScanner-From: aiy@ferens.net Subject: Quality of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:43:54 -0000 Hello, I've been using FreeBSD since 2.1 release. I really like it. I like everything: kernel, ports, development, maintenance and release process. Unfortunately I have so many problems with release 5, with ATA (FAILURE - READ_DMA, TIMEOUT - READ_DMA, etc) in particularly. Definitely I was using production releases only. Finally after so many system rebuilds I found 5.3-RELEASE-p13 very stable. But because of my previous great experience with FreeBSD I decided to upgrade my 5.3 production to 5.4 production (5.4-RELEASE-p4). Now I have the same ATA problems as I had with first 5.3 "production" release. Please don't tell me that I have bad disk or m/b or ATA controller or cable. I'm pretty sure, 90%, it's not hardware related problem. My advice to FreeBSD release engineering team: - do more testing; - have it tested with hardware what was published in "Hardware Notes"; - do not release it for production if it is not in production quality; - reread again what was written by yourself regarding 4.4 release quality. I wish to say more. This mail was written because I like FreeBSD and I want to continue using it. And wouldn't mind to wait longer for real production quality releases instead of start using something else. And please, I know, it's open source project. Best regards, Real FreeBSD fan