From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 5 17:08:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2821816A4CE for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 17:08:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web60404.mail.yahoo.com (web60404.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4A9943D1F for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 17:08:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from twigles@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040705170806.47946.qmail@web60404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.127.35.222] by web60404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 10:08:06 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:08:06 -0700 (PDT) From: twig les To: Paul Robinson , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040704120520.GJ43549@iconoplex.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Mike Tibor Subject: Re: training (was Resourceful BSD/Linux Network Administrator) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:08:07 -0000 The > quality of Unix > training is SHOCKING. I mean, truly, truly awful. I'd like to take this opportunity to plug the junior college system in California. While your mileage may vary as to the know-how of the instructor and the quality of the course material, I took a Unix admin class last year that was awesome and it was dirt cheap - I'm talking roughly $200 for the book (Linux Administration Handbook) and fees all together. The instructor was a veteran admin who taught everything from the command line and spent time on the basics like vi, run levels, etc., and de-emphasized vendor tools like admintool and Mandrake's doohicky. He used RH for the class but I did everything on FBSD and someone else used Sol8 and everything worked with small mods. Here is his new class: http://www1.socccd.cc.ca.us/eservices/ClassDetail.asp?sectionID=22395&termid=20043 This JC is building a multi-semester Unix program to match the MCSE stuff they teach. This is a potent way to use an already existing infrastructure to expose people to *nix whose only experience thus far is with MS (who pays JCs to plaster their students with MS classes). ===== ----------------------------------------------------------- With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy and with science. --Carl Sagan ----------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail