From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 10 05:56:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D2416A403; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9FA43D49; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:56:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9A5tdMU009689 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:55:42 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9A5uGv7045488; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:56:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9A5uEVl045487; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:56:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:56:14 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20061010055614.GA90327@gothmog.pc> References: <20061004105033.b52bb860.rnsanchez@wait4.org> <20061005131248.R46123@fledge.watson.org> <20061006091827.GA941@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061006091827.GA941@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.601, required 5, AWL -0.20, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez , Robert Watson , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PRNG on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:56:05 -0000 On 2006-10-06 19:18, Peter Jeremy wrote: >On Thu, 2006-Oct-05 13:13:51 +0100, Robert Watson wrote: >>On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez wrote: >>> As someone (me) who knows very little on how to effectively compromise a >>> PRNG, what are the tradeoffs? Yarrow is simpler/faster than Fortuna? >> >> Yarrow is an older PRNG algorithm, and Fortuna is (as I understand it) >> generally considered its successor. > > Of course, in the crypto world, "newer" and "better" are closer to > antonyms than synonyms. Heh. Now *this* is a fortune candidate, if I can recognize one :)