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Hartmann wrote: > I'm able to reproduce this behaviour easily: make cleanworld; kldload fi= lemon (if not > already loaded); make buildworld buildkernel Why are you doing cleanworld? > After the build has finished, install everything accordingly and reboot.= Then kldload > filemon and make buildworld buildkernel in /usr/src - and be surprised. Not surprised at all - all of your toolchain etc will be newer and hence cause everything to be out of date. I believe Bryan added some knobs to supress this particular check, though I don't recall what they are. It's not something we deal with here since we never actually install what we are building on the build host. I have trees I haven't cleaned in years - no need to. > > Adding -dM to your build command should be very instructive.