From nobody Sat Feb 3 16:01:43 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TRy7q0j6kz59dL6 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2024 16:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@alexburke.ca) Received: from out-173.mta1.migadu.com (out-173.mta1.migadu.com [IPv6:2001:41d0:203:375::ad]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TRy7p5kVYz4MbX for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2024 16:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@alexburke.ca) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Message-ID: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alexburke.ca; s=key1; t=1706976109; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=TY6UGL9UroTJgvj5BCli40YY8KXKvirlESRh2KjcIUA=; b=NSpbLp1RMj3baoVynaxo4Fo98PPV7j+FZXkljyBWN5jpg5+Q7I8RLJUqf1GQT/UIo/8DbP ythR6Ma+j33bsC1S5//DD8nufbwbPUeCwpiMn+j4RUDeLWDNkEdxn5E02zW9cyz5fi+uHm m1n91yOC90/cOrITfMSZ2qqKoR1GJhY= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2024 17:01:43 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Installing/running X11 Content-Language: fr, es-ES, ca, en-CA To: paulf@quillandmouse.com References: <20240203144851.d47zguvjtisjdsz4@yosemite.mars.lan> X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. From: Alexander Burke Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20240203144851.d47zguvjtisjdsz4@yosemite.mars.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TRy7p5kVYz4MbX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR] Hi Paul, Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I'm starting to get the feeling that you might not have paid as much attention to the wealth of documentation on FreeBSD as perhaps you could have. There's nothing wrong with just diving in, but a bit of guidance in unfamiliar waters is never a bad thing! The most general/basic advice is here; in this case, jump to step 9: https://freebsdfoundation.org/setting-up-a-desktop-environment-from-scratch/ Going up a notch in detail is the excellent FreeBSD Handbook. The Desktop section has separate subsections for the KDE, GNOME, XFCE, MATE, Cinnamon, and LXQT desktop environments. Look around for reviews and screenshots and pick one; they are listed here in approximate descending order of popularity: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/desktop/ I also cannot speak highly enough of vermaden's fabulous blog, which has generally been my first or second port of call when I had questions before I turned to the mailing lists. Here's his page collating all of his entries regarding setting up a FreeBSD desktop: https://vermaden.wordpress.com/freebsd-desktop/  (scroll down past the screenshots) There's also the FreeBSD Forums, which are very searchable: https://forums.freebsd.org/ Given your level of experience, I recommend sticking to packages, and not touching the port system. You can explore the various packages which exist at Freshports: https://www.freshports.org/ Important to remember is that packages are simply precompiled ports. They're a lot easier to deal with than ports. Cheers, Alex On 2024-02-03 15:48, Paul M Foster wrote: > Folks: > > For context, I have a fresh install of version 14. I've made myself part of > the wheel and video groups. I've installed drm-kmod, xdm, xf86-video-intel, > xfce, xorg and xterm. I've added hald_enable="YES", dbus_enable="YES" and > kld_list="i915kms" to /etc/rc.conf. > > At this point, advice diverges significantly. Some sites say I should be > able to just run startx and all will be fine. Some want you to run xorg > -configure. Some want you to hack X11 config files. > > What I can tell you is that X won't start with startx. For one thing, it > outputs these errors: > > (EE) > Fatal server error: > (EE) no screens found(EE) > (EE) > > Also, for what it's worth, service dbus start works. But service hald start > doesn't. The error is: > > hald does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup directories > (/usr/local/etc/rc.d), or is not executable. > > I have no idea how to proceed. > > Paul >