From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Dec 8 12:16:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1314DC6D9F7 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AE61377 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E506EC6D9F6; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B4AC6D9F5 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wj0-x244.google.com (mail-wj0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c01::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95D661376 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wj0-x244.google.com with SMTP id xy5so54185590wjc.1 for ; Thu, 08 Dec 2016 04:16:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PoO6AOOx2Ev8eLRuNFn3YeqbcDSeq7eNxAGUc4EhNMc=; b=uKgb2haStqB7Li1GqWWMTNMbaTcLuPWN9q5+mM5ZHVFUZUTOpIbYEhO5cX1Qar6Sbh KiptlhlzSosFpaXHctnL5KJ6FOCcRhbJejIaPIm5VTiNHCVtFuFNKcAS+HJU+lHWunYH 4pHeNrDMdAlzfGU0+Gr4QuBT1CWCfuaV77kwaqyvVVBOVFiMfAFdhEJmhcdyczJqp0Kc anYIg2MnWSIrDMGc2hPLAfpt5USGUnk+FvR6Ksc68BVRfzoy0Z4JQtpAIsJJ6TVysLue QHgOqsf4vWCOrBt3ypn+s8nES5vlpaWiu4AQlT+VAEBwWG89b70X/GJiTiRkbOiGUXcO xSPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PoO6AOOx2Ev8eLRuNFn3YeqbcDSeq7eNxAGUc4EhNMc=; b=CzqRVRdM+rFivHi874sr82pugUOvRH2+2Z2gn6YtBw52yJuD0XZT06lp9bxSacZjVH KH95iHncKEArQukKf3PklApOBLr9o+Sn19q6guY6XI/7gAkAtJ9sWdGiP0j6Z1KVtzut RPtbCPYhooQnecgAWleZ3CAdL0G1Cg9jLadJZ2JXXu6f0p3aSQiGPCU7I7DJzVG1r6+N I/HJ67yTGNM93+PX7CsiKx78qE4RrfuU6yN3MOvi5hxxc8pk4IhGxxZ30F6zfhNX7Osk AOEzjv5Xj9nfaA6habfpaxBa7rkg84TluY/GPHi6xVNuq+AR68bCyZOax34b3Z8BUNev Xztg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC00dPN+P/8JvB2+pXN/XUGikXuRLyvBopYdBvhcSquCmXrkSpAL8JMEPJCpE2Y+CZA== X-Received: by 10.194.85.137 with SMTP id h9mr61496681wjz.23.1481199390481; Thu, 08 Dec 2016 04:16:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id cl10sm36724950wjb.4.2016.12.08.04.16.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 08 Dec 2016 04:16:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:16:26 +0000 From: RW To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The ports collection has some serious issues Message-ID: <20161208121626.2fec0076@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 12:16:33 -0000 On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 05:16:24 +0000 Daniil Berendeev wrote: > 1) portmaster is not nice for the user. > If it comes over an error even in one little tiny port that is a > dependency for something bigger , it will abort its work and leave all > the other ports not updated. So, if you try to to do `portmaster -af`, > you should not forget `-m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes` (we will return > to this one later) and you must pray to God for not coming around a > circular dependency or some port that would fail to deinstall its > older version. You can't leave portmaster for a night to update all > the needed ports and deal with broken ones in the morning, you need > to cherry pick the broken ports and ignore them, and then try to deal > with them. > > Although portmaster is not releated to the FreeBSD project and is an > outside tool, there aren't any alternatives from the project itself. > So use it or die. Not a nice situation. There's portupgrade. It doesn't stop on the first error but carries on with ports that don't depend on any broken ports.