From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 04:41:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D84916A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 04:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from holodoc.ip.se (ua-213-115-163-137.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [213.115.163.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744A643D5F for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 04:41:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rd@tilde.se) Received: by holodoc.ip.se (Postfix, from userid 103) id 525E1128454; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:38:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from nyalaptopen (ua-213-115-163-136.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [213.115.163.136]) by holodoc.ip.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0758212844E; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:38:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <009801c3de89$84fe4cd0$36031bac@nyalaptopen> From: "Rickard Dahlstrand" To: , "James Long" References: <007701c3ddaf$8c58f000$8b01010a@nyalaptopen> <400A7352.7020101@romat.com> <002501c3ddc1$47ca4210$8b01010a@nyalaptopen> <20040119033829.GA23114@ns.museum.rain.com> <1074484137.21654.7.camel@tux> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:41:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Sanitizer: This message has been sanitized! cc: Gilad Rom cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cutting the power without unmounting the filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:41:34 -0000 Thanks for all the answers. The UPS is not an option I'm afraid. There will be little writing on these machines. Some logs and some config changes. But the chance of regular power failures are still a problem. By the way I'm using FreeBSD 4.9. What if I mount the / RO, and /tmp /var /etc... RW. Will sync or softupdate make /tmp /var /etc... more stabile? Thanks, Rickard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Micheas Herman" To: "James Long" Cc: "Rickard Dahlstrand" ; "Gilad Rom" ; Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 4:48 AM Subject: Re: Cutting the power without unmounting the filesystem > On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 19:38, James Long wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 01:47:48PM +0100, Rickard Dahlstrand wrote: > > > > > > I was hoping on a solution that can work on 4.9. > > > > How about a hardware solution, i.e. a UPS? > > Other possible solutions: > > Use flash ram cards and a journaling file system. (soft updates may work > but you need to talk to someone that knows about them much better than I > do.) > > Use a live cd for everything read only, and use a remote machine for > everything that needs write access. > > Hard disks really need to be powered down instead of having their power > yanked. you are asking for a hard crash if you pull power from a drive > that is actively reading or writing. > > Having this as regular part of the drives duty is asking for trouble. > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- > Write in TERRY BAUM for Congress on March 2, 2004 > http://www.terrybaum.com/ >