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Date:      Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:17:57 -0500 (EST)
From:      John Fieber <jfieber@indiana.edu>
To:        =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= <ache@nagual.ru>
Cc:        Paul Richards <p.richards@elsevier.co.uk>, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-ports@freefall.freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/www/apache/patches patch-ag patch-ac
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.3.95.961105081446.20622L-100000@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199611050017.DAA00753@nagual.ru>

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On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, [KOI8-R] Андрей Чернов wrote:

> > These types of changes aren't "porting" patches and as such I don't
> > think they should be part of the ports structure. Like I said, if
> > you're interested in Apache development join the Apache development list.
> 
> Porting process includes local enhancements too.

Hmmm.  I think this is a slightly dangerous position to take. It
opens th ports collection to a great deal of abuse and is
problematic both for people maintaining a port and for users. 

Even if the patches have been submitted to the original
developers, there is no saying whether they will implement the
"feature" according to your plan if at all.  If they don't
implement it, how long do you anticipate supporting your new
feature?  If they implement it differently, will you continue
supporting your implementation?

The porting guidelines (see handbook) specify that *mainstream*
sources should be used.  This is, at least in part, to avoid
complicating the users' life experimental designs that are
subject to change.  If alpha or beta sources are considered bad,
how about features that have not even made it that far?  Features
whose design and implementation have not yet been considered by
the developers?

These patches may, in fact, represent a well designed and
implemented feature, but that is beside the point. You have
stepped over the line between FreeBSD porter and Apache
developer. My opinion is that the only patches that have a
rightful home in the ports collection are those directly relating
to making the software work on *FreeBSD*. 

Also, you claim that the apache release cycle is pretty long.  As
you may recall, many people prefer FreeBSD over Linux for
*precicely* that reason. 

-john

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