From owner-freebsd-current Thu Aug 6 11:59:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01516 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:59:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from majestix.kph.uni-mainz.de (majestix.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.132.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01434 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:59:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krygier@kph.uni-mainz.de) Received: from localhost (krygier@localhost) by majestix.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13697; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:58:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from krygier@kph.uni-mainz.de) X-Authentication-Warning: majestix.kph.uni-mainz.de: krygier owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:58:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Klaus Werner Krygier To: Philippe Regnauld cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: system lock-up (SMP, AHC_TAGENABLE, softupdates) In-Reply-To: <19980802172204.50682@deepo.prosa.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Philippe Regnauld wrote: > System: GigaByte 586-DX, 2xP5-133, 48MB, on-board 7880 SCSI, > 4GB IBM DCAS-34330W. > Current as of CTM src-cur 3477 (< 48 hours). > > Softupdates enabled on _all_ filesystems: no problem, did > two make buildworlds/installworld in a row, as long > as AHC_TAGENABLE is off. > > If I enable AHC_TAGENABLE, and push the system a bit (lots > of FS activity) -> freeze. Last time it happened was with X, > so I'd have to do it again in text mode to write down the AHC > TAG messages... I have a very similar hardware setup on several machines (Gigabyte 586-DX, 2 x P5-200, 64 MB, on-board 7880 SCSI, several different disks (2GB, 4GB, 9GB)) and I have the same problems: If I do a lot of disk activity my computers freeze. Sometimes a SCSI bus reset seems to be initiated (which I can recogize on the loading activity of my CD changer). This problem occurs on standard 3.0-SNAP kernels without softupdates and almost SMP-GENERIC configuration. I tried several SNAPs, but the problem remained - I have the impression it has become worse with newe versions :-(. At last I damaged one of my disks. My last hope was CAM. Here (3.0CAM-19980712-SNAP) the system does not freeze completely but becomes very slow on disk access and is also not usable. One positive aspect: I get kernel messages. Every few seconds the following message is printed out for ever: Timedout SCB handled by another timeout Timedout SCB handled by another timeout last message repeated 4 times last message repeated 13 times last message repeated 30 times Timedout SCB handled by another timeout Timedout SCB handled by another timeout etc. With older 3.0-SNAPs (e.g. May 97) a SMP system was very stable on my first board and did not show such effects for almost a year. Because of other problems and to use new features and improvements I had to upgrade and have now very instable systems. Klaus Werner Krygier +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dr. Klaus Werner Krygier | Email: krygier@kph.uni-mainz.de | | Institut für Kernphysik | | | Johannes Gutenberg-Universität | Tel: +49-6131-39-2960 | | J.J.Becher-Weg 45 | +49-6131-39-5868 | | D-55099 Mainz | Fax: +49-6131-39-2964 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message