From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 15 22:20:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A00BB7CC4E for ; Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm3-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm3-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C0A61F7B for ; Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1500157025; bh=5bx6ciO646tFhLbZ/LMSF5F2DCwZJRa08L6ZlE8MBXs=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=X2V7wTC8X5A4JDpwGfPiVXhZuhnw6KVkNIZwthCUglT6Deo/2mmIo9UvkG2lVd7/wRiUycY03pT/1BQZKcHvsuipc7DtfDA0PqVNUtkkDu8TgOPpcmDLs8ESXlIdkZWZePOaL34QwNw8MP+FMcbK4X51e3vzkmf3/rygNhvgoTKGNoE9mI9Z5xShOA9ZDhI91CW+UGMDWIDNTK5Samw4/u2sismy0F5loVZffkGoceHsteigrvMnLmZ5NedKoL3XDMpGvRGlwz3V1CJ+S9Q8RbAK7+YIA29VGzjdwW6EmtgQCysMx3ZHJHF7iDysCKQxJ0XnPLUCfDG/LkKAXVAfBg== Received: from [212.82.98.60] by nm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2017 22:17:05 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.82] by tm13.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2017 22:17:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2017 22:17:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 356221.7743.bm@smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: rhHcn8cVM1mBu0kT6IK9AQIOiV47f.DQoNhoJGjAduiyfNf ioVUagq7O7toi77tE7060JrsCSgHLFRtlSvRZR.iqtk_J3S6M0cUkjqbmT2E 57laWqIKSnktVytp6U3L1KPTU_b_8JxfRuFuV4ixmxVa7v15.I8JnQuT3gKl xuDQykDSPtZKzc3nAWcBKp1lOPCgv.jtHHL_En7hHdQBxoKwU6VkFvPuQdTw hpKmCHRP0V4HKx8Hnzm3zdfWVMFPNMXXNjJnWAx1edOy_oOjGBIwat1yoWZO Rhkf5LI119XLOuxhqUuaxC02wn7pexjGUKapW437oimxRu06c29UsLxwsOLj HQHTJpsVmSmsWV9Bkj7xyHT1uYeJSyEYkHI8qOproxqE0szOUPGQsMMfPtBz 7C7dq2SUmo_iz6_QVjUqzbseegKCBlORqSS4wplqiaPV12xFDhXS.7hMrOPW HHstb_UgVgUgMQmIgldxTcJzZ3636eZ2HUsAlG7PBYPlMbqTFRz4_sUlGk8K Eg90Fdr.hivWycMCe6g1G42HsW4o5cu8kj_eg0xvXFApB070_A8UhsMJJAjF 8MTyV_NaWvaACXMPfab1fYld.iHQ- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 00:17:05 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Best printer makes (manufacturers) for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20170716001705.4cbf445e@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170715212321.cbf11003.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <57789.76.193.16.143.1500143031.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20170715212321.cbf11003.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git72 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:20:21 -0000 On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 21:23:21 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >_before_ paying money Last time I bought an external - IOW USB - audio device, the requirement was to work with iOS as well as with Linux. I cared about compatibility lists, but actually you can't trust such lists, as I experienced already in the past, regarding audio devices as well as modems and all kind of PCI to whatsoever bridges. I ensured that I could test the audio device, this means to pay for it, but to get a money back guarantee. Too funny, the first audio device I purchased worked with Linux, but not with iOS, while it was listed to work with iOS as well. I still own a professional audio device that should work with FreeBSD as well as with Linux, but actually it only partial works with Linux, while it's working without fault when using FreeBSD. That time I unfortunately wasn't careful when testing the device, I rusted Linux recommendations. However, the best bet is to buy a device with a money back guarantee and to completely test everything that is needed, whatever operating system you are using, what ever device you purchase, a printer, an audio interface, a PCI to whatsoever bridge or whatever else. Sometimes gear is available with 4 kinds of chip sets, 3 are known to work and the fourth wasn't sold that much, so even the vendor didn't update the compatibility list and/or most functions work with all operating systems, but just the function nearly nobody does use (the function you need it for) isn't working for one operating system etc. ... It doesn't matter if you are using the most freakish operating system, Plan 9 or even more strange or even something wide spread as iOS. Checking lists "_before_ paying money" not always helps, it's better to ask your dealer for a "money back guarantee" and to do detailed nitpicking tests of everything that is needed.