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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Td3QQ66hxz4PSZ X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.50)[-0.503]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::22d:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com] On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:28=E2=80=AFAM Thierry Thomas wrote: > > Le dim. 18 f=C3=A9vr. 24 =C3=A0 12:18:11 +0100, Aryeh Friedman > =C3=A9crivait : > > > Wonderful: Are we now moving to the binary pkg only for mere mortals > > then. For example my desktop is a fairly standard 12 core machine > > with 24 GB of RAM and plenty of disk space (on SSD's) but yet Proudrie > > slows the machine down so much that xorg becomes unresponsive or the > > machine used for any other purpose (yes I know this can be customized > > to make it work but that *SHOULD NOT* be the default case). One > > reason I started with FreeBSD in the first place and not linsucks is > > it is/(was?!?!?) completely buildable from source (including 3d party > > packages) on a completely normal desktop (at least til about 2018 and > > I started using FreeBSD in 1993). > > > > So when is it going to be possible for a mere mortal like the machine > > above to use portmaster or recursive make install since Poudrie is a > > machine killer > > It is still possible for maintainer to submit PR with patches not tested > on poudriere: it is the committer=E2=80=99s responsibility to perform the= se > tests before committing them. Again when will mere mortals get to do anything more than the above... no wonder there are so many ports that don't play well with others if you put all the responsibility on the maintainer but make it so none of the needed tools do this run on a normal consumer/business grade machine. > -- > Th. Thomas.