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Grimes" , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Shawn Webb Subject: Re: Refactoring calendar(1) (was: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars) In-reply-to: <20200924224524.GB53226@eureka.lemis.com> References: <202009241555.08OFtjKx047062@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <202009242135.08OLZAkQ036749@slippy.cwsent.com> <20200924224524.GB53226@eureka.lemis.com> Comments: In-reply-to "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" message dated "Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:45:24 +1000." 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It's hard fighting your way through > >>> a lot of expired verbiage. > > Thanks for the trimming. > > >>> While I have your attention, does anybody think that the -a option of > >>> calendar(1) is worth keeping? It goes through *all* calendar files on > >>> a system and mails them to the owner. It has the interesting side > >>> effect (we wouldn't want to call it a bug) that root gets three copies > >>> (one each for root, toor and daemon). I can't see anything useful > >>> there that a per-user cron job can't do. > >> > >> What the per-user cron job does is create a larger workload for > >> systems that are expecting all users to be running calendar, as > >> possible in an acedemic system which each student has a login. > > > > Have it use libxo might be a good exercise for someone wanting to get back > > into it after a while, or a student. > > How would that address the issue? Adding libxo will allow it to be used for some kitschy website. That coupled with a port generating a file, a person may have something. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.