From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 15:28:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9431FE9A9E; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from um-nip3-missouri-out.um.umsystem.edu (um-nip3-missouri-out.um.umsystem.edu [198.209.49.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "um-tip1.um.umsystem.edu", Issuer "InCommon RSA Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEE3E81D42; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2FxBAD0PM9b/xk40cZjGgEBAQEBAgEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEHAgEBAQGBZQKCA4FlMoNrlDWFTJNXgXkBCwEsgUuCdQIXhRQhPQUMAQMBAQI?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQICAmkohTwGIxFFEAIBCBoCJgICAjAVEAIEAQwBBwEBFYMIggKmXYEuiE4BB?= =?us-ascii?q?4FLgQuKVxeCAIE4gW1+iAGCVwKKWZN3CQKQbB2QMJZEAgICAgkCFIFtAQ6BVXI?= =?us-ascii?q?TgyiCJReOGoIXimYBgR4BAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2FxBAD0PM9b/xk40cZjGgEBAQEBAgEBAQEHAgEBAQGBZQK?= =?us-ascii?q?CA4FlMoNrlDWFTJNXgXkBCwEsgUuCdQIXhRQhPQUMAQMBAQIBAQICAmkohTwGI?= =?us-ascii?q?xFFEAIBCBoCJgICAjAVEAIEAQwBBwEBFYMIggKmXYEuiE4BB4FLgQuKVxeCAIE?= =?us-ascii?q?4gW1+iAGCVwKKWZN3CQKQbB2QMJZEAgICAgkCFIFtAQ6BVXITgyiCJReOGoIXi?= =?us-ascii?q?mYBgR4BAQ?= Received: from ex2-t17.um.umsystem.edu ([198.209.56.25]) by um-nip3-exch-relay.um.umsystem.edu with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2018 10:27:07 -0500 Received: from EX2-N14.um.umsystem.edu (198.209.56.22) by EX2-T17.um.umsystem.edu (198.209.56.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1531.3; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:27:06 -0500 Received: from EX2-N14.um.umsystem.edu ([198.209.56.22]) by EX2-N14.um.umsystem.edu ([198.209.56.22]) with mapi id 15.01.1531.003; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:27:06 -0500 From: "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" To: "Julian H. Stacey" , "Rodney W. Grimes" CC: "ctm-users@freebsd.org" , Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD Current , Ed Maste , Warner Losh Subject: Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? Thread-Topic: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? Thread-Index: AQHUak6oFha2k0mYvU+8ASXkS/fskqUtSOmA Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:27:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <201810222132.w9MLVvxC050976@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201810222132.w9MLVvxC050976@fire.js.berklix.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 x-originating-ip: [128.206.49.160] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <9EC24256A0EA5A4BA569B28D753BA66F@missouri.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:36:14 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:28:18 -0000 SSBoYXZlIG5vIHByb2JsZW0gdHVybmluZyBjdG0gaW50byBhIHBvcnQuICBCdXQgSSB3b3VsZCBh cHByZWNpYXRlDQphZHZpY2Ugb24gd2hldGhlciB0aGVyZSBpcyBhIHN0YW5kYXJkIG9yIGVhc3kg cHJvY2VzcyBmb3IgY29udmVydGluZw0Kc29mdHdhcmUgZnJvbSB0aGUgRnJlZUJTRCBiYXNlIHRv IGEgcG9ydC4gIElmIG5vdCwgSSBjYW4gbXVkZGxlIG15IHdheQ0KdGhyb3VnaCBpdC4gIEJ1dCBn aXZlIG1lIHNvbWUgdGltZSAoYSBmZXcgbW9udGhzKSB0byBnZXQgaXQgZG9uZSwNCmJlY2F1c2Ug dGhlIHJlc3Qgb2YgbXkgbGlmZSBpcyBtYWtpbmcgaGVhdnkgZGVtYW5kcyBvbiBtZSByaWdodCBu b3cuDQoNCkkgZG8gaGF2ZSB3cml0ZSBhY2Nlc3MgdG8gY3RtLWFubm91bmNlQCwgb3IgYXQgbGVh c3QgSSBkaWQgdGhlIGxhc3QgdGltZQ0KSSBjaGVja2VkLiAgSSBkb24ndCB1c2UgaXQgdmVyeSBt dWNoLCBiZWNhdXNlIEkgbGlrZSBmb3IgcGVvcGxlIHRvIGhhdmUNCnRoZSBhYmlsaXR5IHRvIHJl cGx5IHRvIG15IG1lc3NhZ2VzLg0KDQpJIGRvIHJlYWxpemUgdGhhdCB0aGUgbnVtYmVyIG9mIHBl b3BsZSB1c2luZyBjdG0gaXMgdmVyeSBsb3cuICBJIHVzZWQgdG8NCmJlIGEgdXNlciBteXNlbGYs IGJ1dCBub3cgSSBmaW5kIHN2biBhIGxvdCBtb3JlIGNvbnZlbmllbnQuICBCdXQgdGhlDQplZmZv cnQgZm9yIG1lIHRvIG1haW50YWluIGN0bSBpc24ndCB0aGF0IGdyZWF0LCBzbyBJIGFtIHdpbGxp bmcgdG8ga2VlcA0KaXQgbW92aW5nIGZvciB0aGUgZmV3Lg0KDQpCZXN0IHJlZ2FyZHMsDQpTdGVw aGVuIE1vbnRnb21lcnktU21pdGgNCkNUTSBtYWludGFpbmVy