From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 22 5:32:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns5.pacific.net.au (ns5.pacific.net.au [203.143.252.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4EA37B720 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:32:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mckay@thehub.com.au) Received: from dungeon.home (ppp189.dyn249.pacific.net.au [203.143.249.189]) by ns5.pacific.net.au (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02548; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:31:48 +1100 (EST) Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2MDWFP27615; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:32:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200103221332.f2MDWFP27615@dungeon.home> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 1999-10-15 To: Bruce Evans Cc: Ulf Zimmermann , current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Michael C . Wu" , Vladimir Kushnir , mckay@thehub.com.au Subject: Re: Whatever happened to CTM? In-Reply-To: Message from Bruce Evans of "Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:31:40 +1100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:32:15 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 22nd March 2001, Bruce Evans wrote: >On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Stephen McKay wrote: >> On the contrary, I prefer CTM over CVSup, even on a fast connection (which >> I don't currently have). On a slow or intermittent connection, CTM beats >> CVSup by a large margin. > >I'm not sure about that. CTM may be faster, but it works less >automatically, especially when it breaks, and it breaks often, at both >the server and client levels (mainly downtime problems for the server >and disk-full problems for the client. I used to use it until the >server broke one time too many last year. CTM's advantages outweigh the disadvantages for me. I don't run out of disk space(*), and the server failures have been rare. Certainly, the reliability of CTM delivery exceeded the reliability of all of the M$ systems the guys in the neighbouring cubicles managed at my previous employer. Until now, of course. What we need now is someone to supply hardware and some connectivity. I still think CTM has sufficient advantages to justify its continued existence. I think the project should fund it. Stephen. (*) The tangle you get in after ctm croaks from lack of disk space were supposed to have been fixed. I don't think they have been. It shouldn't be too difficult though. All those md5 checksums make repairs trivial to automate, in theory. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message