Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 18:36:53 +0300 From: Beeblebrox <zaphod@berentweb.com> To: Fernando Herrero =?UTF-8?B?Q2FycsOzbg==?= <elferdo@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: End of year Xorg status rant Message-ID: <20170101183653.2c85698a@rsbsd.rsb> In-Reply-To: <CAMwkeZz%2BJA2Lzjs9=MYVvYrU61XbLnfdYbwqAwXL3oBPWdw9kQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <20161230163653.54909631@rsbsd.rsb> <15952279f17.e0be0d8c34357.732964216134709731@nextbsd.org> <20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <20161231145143.18e6ac99@rsbsd.rsb> <CAMwkeZz%2BJA2Lzjs9=MYVvYrU61XbLnfdYbwqAwXL3oBPWdw9kQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Interesting discussion; thank you for all comments. I have several questions: * Is TrueOS/PC-BSD ahead of FreeBSD on the Desktop? If so, why? The answer = is probably "depends on the card", but again, is it ahead of FreeBsd for ce= rtain cards and why? If it's because they have integrated Matt's work, why = has FreeBSD not opted to do so? * Does the problem have anything to do with the Kernel Compat Layer for Lin= ux (https://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel)? I'm asking to understand the ex= tent of the issue.=20 * Other than that, perhaps we could try and slice this problem in the short= term from another angle: Which GPU cards work (and are expected to work with new hardware) as of now= ? If anything, this discussion shows that the Graphics Wiki page (https://w= iki.freebsd.org/Graphics) is inadequate for GPU selection. Perhaps it could= be updated to a parametrised format showing functions by column each GPU c= ard supports (rather than simply works"/"does not work"). For example, as an immediate solution to my problem I would prefer (as I as= sume most others would) to purchase a new card that is confirmed to be work= ing on multiple parameters rather than slog through a "hopefully soon" scen= ario for the next couple of years (I'm not on a laptop, btw). I'm still willing to contribute, but above solution would at least reduce f= rustration and increase my productivity. New systems would also benefit by = selecting decent cards and reducing noise to the developers/list. Regards.
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